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Post by GoldenFlither on Aug 20, 2006 0:47:14 GMT
I think the reason people should ever fall in love is because of one word. Drumroll! * drrr...* Trust! ...I hope it's more than just that. Every relationship should have a little more than that to go on. Well of course there's more than that. I just mean the main concept. Would you be able to love somebody without trusting them? That's why friendship should lead into love. I don't like the kind of love as in "love at first sight." I don't believe in that.  *runs from angry people who believe in love at first sight* |
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Post by exmember on Aug 20, 2006 0:53:10 GMT
...I hope it's more than just that. Every relationship should have a little more than that to go on. Well of course there's more than that. I just mean the main concept. Would you be able to love somebody without trusting them? That's why friendship should lead into love. I don't like the kind of love as in "love at first sight." I don't believe in that. *runs from angry people who believe in love at first sight* Yeah I don't believe love at first sight either. But none of my friends at school agree with me.  They think that dating a complete stranger is better. Can someone please explain how is it better? |
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Post by GoldenFlither on Aug 20, 2006 1:09:06 GMT
Ew. You see, thats the problem with adolescents today. They don't realize how precious love can be while their going to bars and getting drunk with their.. "boyfriends." That probably sounds weird because people shouldn't fall in love until they are sure. So why date and get drunk? Why not just enjoy life while you can, and then think of your love life later on, like when you graduate? Am I insult anybody just there? I do apologize if I did. But I mean it.
BTW: For the record, yes, I am an adolescent. ;D
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Post by regan on Aug 20, 2006 3:05:40 GMT
That probably sounds weird because people shouldn't fall in love until they are sure. I'm not quite understanding how that makes sense... how can you know that you're in love "for real" immediately? That's the whole point of dating... spending time with various people until you are sure that's the person you want to be with. It's near impossible to say "I'm in love with you; I'm sure of it. let's get married" after, say, the first date. Ew. You see, thats the problem with adolescents today. They don't realize how precious love can be while their going to bars and getting drunk with their.. "boyfriends." So why date and get drunk? Oh my. ^^; What is it with kids and the notion that alcohol is immediate grounds for drunken fratboy-like debauchery? There is a very, very big difference between the movies where every time someone drinks they turn into a roudy slut.... and the reality where a mature person can responsibly enjoy a drink with their boyfriend. Consumption of alcohol is an extremely common passtime, and bars and restaurants remain a popular place to meet for a date. It's casual and relaxing. So don't knock it until you've tried it. ^^ Why not just enjoy life while you can, and then think of your love life later on, like when you graduate? That's a bad idea in my opinion. Admittedly, I feel that younger kids shouldn't take their "relationships" too seriously... since it's doubtful that they're at a maturity level to really process or maintain one. However, waiting until you graduate highschool to date? No no no no no. By the time you reach college, most people will expect you to have the social and maturity skills necessary to interract with and date other people. Completely cutting out that important learning experience will only leave you awkward and unsure of yourself.... you'll be learning the basic skills of "how exactly do I keep this relationship? what am I supposed to do?" late in the game. So once again, speeking from experience: bad idea. ^^; ~Regan |
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Post by unifilar on Aug 20, 2006 3:29:01 GMT
Actually, I thought it made quite a bit of a sense. I thought Golde merely meant that you shouldn't take advantage of love. Going and getting drunk and doing...certain....things is, unfortunately, what many people nowadays do, and they equate it with love. I didn't interpret Golde's words as saying, "Don't date, darnit!", but more of "Don't do stupid things to find love." That's just me, I could've misunderstood it. Well, I believe Golde used the term 'get drunk', not 'having a drink'. There's a difference there as well. But I don't care to delve deeper into the matter, for otherwise I'll sound like I'm preaching about morals when it comes to drinking. XD Ah, I remember, several years back, how everytime I became good friends with a boy, I automatically had to be his girlfriend. That was tiring, because I became quite friendly with many a boy. The kids I knew, however, seemed to see no line between friendship and OMGLOVE when it came to a boy and girl having a relationship (homosexualism wasn't really picked up on back in the day in my neighborhood  ). |
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Post by scone on Aug 20, 2006 6:54:50 GMT
Going and getting drunk and doing...certain....things is, unfortunately, what many people nowadays do, and they equate it with love. Of all the people I've known who have a regular habit of doing 'certain things' (my this thread is puritan XD), none of them equate it with love. Merely with having a good time. Not everyone's looking for love - some just want a little nookie. Not that unfortunate. XD |
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Aug 20, 2006 13:21:51 GMT
Of all the people I've known who have a regular habit of doing 'certain things' (my this thread is puritan XD), none of them equate it with love. Merely with having a good time. Not everyone's looking for love - some just want a little nookie. Not that unfortunate. XD Yes, it IS that unfortunate. The rising rate of teen pregnancies, unfit parents, the very high possibility of overpopulation (which leads directly to high crime rates--which is the reason big cities like New York are such a slum), and the fact that we even NEED abortion and other means of birth control is a pretty big problem. And, sure, the people YOU hang out with may know the difference between true love and simply having a good time, but most people--especially people in their mid-teens--don't, or if they do they don't care. The worst part of it is that the people who DO know better, and who can actually keep their hormones under control, have to live with the fallout of the bad decisions of the people who can't. |
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Post by GoldenFlither on Aug 20, 2006 13:50:56 GMT
Yeesh.. now were getting into the topic of reality instead of KND. I guess we won't be seeing the KND every getting drunk. Well, maybe Numbuh 5 on sugar, but thats about it.
Regan: I didn't really mean "having a drink", as unifilar mentioned. I mean actually getting "drunk" with people they think they can trust. Believe me. I watch the OC and its not pretty. *laughs* Like that has anything to do with the topic. Anyways, but I know what you mean about the dating thing. Of course they can. Its just that I definetely wouldn't. I'm waiting until I graduate. Well, unless I fall deeply in love. Maybe with a guy I trust, is a good student, does not dress inappropriately, and is romantic. Then I would date. But I would not see him as true love. Not yet, anyway.
So anyways, can we get back on the KND topic? ;D
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Post by aquakirbyyoshi on Aug 20, 2006 15:45:17 GMT
Well, the thing is I have different views when it comes to couples, depending on the couple. First of all like 3x4, is probably love because there's so many hints. (flirting, saving each others lives, clinging, etc.) Their personalities contrast each other, thus making them pretty compatible and well, they both probably think of each other as attractive so.
When it comes to 1x5 type kind of couple, I think of it more based on friendship. They both have similiar personalities, but different beliefs sometimes and reactions. But since they're both leader and tend to work together alot through situations/missions, their friendship grows strong and possibly even admiring each other that can turn into a crush. Leaning toward the friendship/sibling type relation, in my opinion. Goes with 1x2 also, in a way.
I'm gonna now talk about my favorite ship ever from Pokemon but it may contain spoilers in the Pokemon manga. ;O
Two rivals, different personalites. The girl is wild (literally), hot-tempered, shy around people and lacks social skills and the things happening in society like not knowing what a Pokemon Center is. She doesn't care wearing something like a grass outfit and looks down at things in modern society. (synthethic clothing, technological stuff) But she's self sufficient, has great insticts and senses (smelling,eyesight,strength) and a good heart even if she violently takes out her anger on battling Pokemon (poor creatures). So, she's very tune with nature. And very passionate for battles.
The boy on the other hand is more calm minded, determinded with his passion for making his Pokemon looking beautiful (Pokemon contests) rather metrosexual and is judgemental on appearances. He wants to look good, and thinks looks and talent is all there to in life... He's rather arrogant and very naraccist (I dunno how to spell it XD) but have good in him still despite looking at everything "ugly" at digust. Unlike the girl, he doesn't realize beauty is from the inside. And he's actually very strong and not wimpy as he seems to be but doesn't like showing his boyish side (well, you're a guy! you're supposed too, damn it).
Simililarities. They both are young children (the girl is 10, the boy is 11 )and don't know how to handle interacting with each other from their total opposites and thus shoving their beliefs down each other throats. The girl is a bit egotistic too, but not as much as the boy. Eventually their fighting leads to helping each other out with their flaws, for example, the boy teaching the girl that not eveything that looks good isn't bad (like him, lawl *shot*) and showing her girly "weakness" isn't that bad. The girl taught the boy that to show his more kinder and sweet side more... and not look at everything with utter disgust... and such. They both get each others flaws and fix them up a bit.
Point is, it all depends on the personalities and if they meet each other and blah blah blaaaah...
...And sometimes ships happen when two characters who don't really talk to each other or interact that much gains a crush on each other. Like one may admire the person from afar and seeks the qualaties to make that person ideal. Vice versa, or something. It all depends what kind of person that person is, and likes.
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Damn, long post.
I'll post more if I got anything else to say xD
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Post by adultshooter on Aug 20, 2006 17:17:59 GMT
I love both equally, there's love in friendship and there's friendship in love.
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Post by GoldenFlither on Aug 20, 2006 19:38:33 GMT
Wise words, kali.
Numbuh 2: *sniff sniff* Beautiful..
And I agree with both you and aquakirbyyoshi. It can go both ways. As kali's wise words describe: "There's love in friendship, and friendship in love." But you know the "love in friendship" thing? That can be put in the never way, or the of course way.
Get it? ;D
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Post by scone on Aug 21, 2006 0:21:47 GMT
Of all the people I've known who have a regular habit of doing 'certain things' (my this thread is puritan XD), none of them equate it with love. Merely with having a good time. Not everyone's looking for love - some just want a little nookie. Not that unfortunate. XD Yes, it IS that unfortunate. The rising rate of teen pregnancies, unfit parents, the very high possibility of overpopulation (which leads directly to high crime rates--which is the reason big cities like New York are such a slum), and the fact that we even NEED abortion and other means of birth control is a pretty big problem. And, sure, the people YOU hang out with may know the difference between true love and simply having a good time, but most people--especially people in their mid-teens--don't, or if they do they don't care. The worst part of it is that the people who DO know better, and who can actually keep their hormones under control, have to live with the fallout of the bad decisions of the people who can't. ....are you saying people shouldn't have sex unless they're deliberately trying to have a baby (which apparently they shouldn't because of overpopulation?) Pffft. Okay! Believe me. I watch the OC and its not pretty. *laughs* See, that's why we said drinking =/= like what you see in movies/tv all the time. ANYWAYS, on thread... I like friendship. I wish all the friendship in the show wasn't automatically turned into romance in fanon. :,( |
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Post by getmepower on Aug 21, 2006 0:32:53 GMT
I second Kali for love and friendship. If I really have a girlfriend, I would be taking care of her. There's a lot of things to do in life than just love and friendship.
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Post by digigirl02 on Aug 21, 2006 0:40:04 GMT
I agree, I think that it is important to be friends first though.
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Post by Nella (Numbuh 310) on Aug 21, 2006 0:58:05 GMT
...the very high possibility of overpopulation (which leads directly to high crime rates--which is the reason big cities like New York are such a slum)... me? New York is certainly not a slum - at least, not anymore. Quite a few years ago, NYC went through a major reform period. I can't speak for any other cities, as I don't know enough about them, but NYC is doing fine. I'm proud to be a New Yorker, thanks very much, and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. And, on topic, I think there are both romances and friendships on this show. It makes me a sad panda when the friendships are automatically perceived as romance by the fandom. |
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*runs from angry people who believe in love at first sight*
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