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Post by cybra on May 25, 2004 19:46:06 GMT
I suppose I'll throw my own two cents into the bank. Someone argue with me if you wish. I'd enjoy the friendly verbal combat. Or, if you prefer, I'd agree to disagree.  I think one problem most people have with Kids Next Door slash is the youth of the participants. Remember, Numbuhs 1 through 5 are only ten years old. Anti- KND slashers probably state that ten year-olds can't possibly decide that they're going to start a relationship with someone of the same gender if they're only just starting to get interested in people of the opposite gender. I'll grant a little leeway to those people. It's a bit difficult to picture anything heavy such as the NC-17 fics on a certain website that shall remain nameless. However, is it absolutely impossible that some people never "switched" from heterosexuality to homosexuality? Is it possible that some people always recognized members of their own gender as attractive while never really acknowledging members of the opposite gender that way? Still, even if that does not apply to any of the members of the Kids Next Door, there is the future. Time doesn't always change preferences, but it can in some cases. Another possible argument of anti- KND slashers is that it is unsupported by the canon. However, this is an argument that can be turned against any couple. For example, someone could say that the couple 1/3 cannot exist since it is unsupported. Yet, James has shown us several hints using the canon. (See his 1/3 shrine at www.angelfire.com/comics/nes_star/KND/NKShrine.html.)Slash fans can do the exact same thing. A slash fan may claim that 4/2 does exist using the amount of interaction that the pair has along with how they interact with each other. I suppose that, in the end, whether or not Kids Next Door should be slashed depends on the beliefs of who is writing or drawing the story or picture for the fandom. ~Cybra P.S. For the record, I'm a slasher. Could you tell? EDIT: For some strange reason, the link to James's site didn't copy over the first time.  It's fixed now. |
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Post by pinkdenim on May 25, 2004 20:40:08 GMT
*Claps* You explained that very well!
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Post by cybra on May 25, 2004 21:31:53 GMT
*Claps* You explained that very well! :::bows::: Thank you! And thank you, Effective Writing 102.  ~Cybra |
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Post by Nella (Numbuh 310) on May 25, 2004 21:48:49 GMT
Perfectly explained. I happen to be a major slasher but I just doin't see that many pairings in KND. But that's my personal opinion.  Not to say that I haven't indulged in reading KND slashfics (and I really enjoyed some of them). |
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Post by tako on May 25, 2004 21:54:55 GMT
I think one problem most people have with Kids Next Door slash is the youth of the participants. Remember, Numbuhs 1 through 5 are only ten years old. Anti- KND slashers probably state that ten year-olds can't possibly decide that they're going to start a relationship with someone of the same gender if they're only just starting to get interested in people of the opposite gender. I'll grant a little leeway to those people. It's a bit difficult to picture anything heavy such as the NC-17 fics on a certain website that shall remain nameless. However, is it absolutely impossible that some people never "switched" from heterosexuality to homosexuality? Is it possible that some people always recognized members of their own gender as attractive while never really acknowledging members of the opposite gender that way? Yay, thank you! That was the point I was attempting to argue on the "Remember what KND is" thread (http://numbuh8.proboards17.com/index.cgi?board=fanfics&action=display&thread=1083078493). Believe it or not, two years ago, I used to be really grossed out by anything involving homosexuality (which means that I was freaked out by a lot of anime series ^^;;; ). However, I found out that one of my friends was a lesbian and from what she's told me, it seems that she never really liked guys at all, even as a kid. I'm pretty convinced that homosexuality is something that you're often born with and therefore, having homosexual kids isn't any more "wrong" than having homosexual adults or teens, and having a slash sex scene with kids is just as wrong as having a straight one with kids. |
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Post by cybra on May 25, 2004 22:07:00 GMT
Yay, thank you! That was the point I was attempting to argue on the "Remember what KND is" thread (http://numbuh8.proboards17.com/index.cgi?board=fanfics&action=display&thread=1083078493). Believe it or not, two years ago, I used to be really grossed out by anything involving homosexuality (which means that I was freaked out by a lot of anime series ^^;;; ). However, I found out that one of my friends was a lesbian and from what she's told me, it seems that she never really liked guys at all, even as a kid. I'm pretty convinced that homosexuality is something that you're often born with and therefore, having homosexual kids isn't any more "wrong" than having homosexual adults or teens, and having a slash sex scene with kids is just as wrong as having a straight one with kids. Thanks for the input! It made me feel happy and shiny. In addition, it was certainly informative. Knowing something because of research is one thing. Knowing something because of someone's personal experience is another. The link to that thread was certainly interesting. I didn't know that there was a topic like that on the board. Must've been "Pre-Cybra." Anyway, thank you! ~Cybra |
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Post by scone on May 26, 2004 4:49:22 GMT
yay! cybra! thank you for the good explainationness. it's pretty much what i've been trying to say for a while. that thread made me sad.  |
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Post by juigikario on May 27, 2004 4:27:03 GMT
I don't like slash. I find it gross. And if you want to say I can't withstand adult games, I HAVE played AND beaten Tales of Phantasia, which is one of the more adult games on the Super Famicom. The translated version by those pervs at DeJap too. My ships there are the 2 canon ones among your party members. (Namely Cless/Mint and Chester/Arche.) NOT SLASH! (Mint and Arche are female, while Cless and Chester are male. I am not a Cless/Chester supporter even though they're best friends.)
Basically, you'd have to be an idiot to believe I would support Wally/Hoagie slash fics. Then again, there are people who would say "boys will be boys."
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on May 27, 2004 12:42:20 GMT
I don't like slash. I find it gross. And if you want to say I can't withstand adult games, I HAVE played AND beaten Tales of Phantasia, which is one of the more adult games on the Super Famicom. The translated version by those pervs at DeJap too. Ok ok ok... where do you get off calling the Dejap guys "pervs"? (Since I'm sure everyone else will be lost on this one--DeJap is a group that translates video games into English). |
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Post by cybra on May 27, 2004 17:36:57 GMT
I don't like slash. I find it gross. And if you want to say I can't withstand adult games, I HAVE played AND beaten Tales of Phantasia, which is one of the more adult games on the Super Famicom. My only question, Juigi Kario, is this: How did you jump from slash to adult games? I'm not following your line of reasoning. Could you please explain? These are two entirely different things. ~Cybra |
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Post by numbah235213 on Jul 29, 2004 1:52:36 GMT
if i were to choose a gay couple, it'd be 1/4 cuz they're best friends and all. but i don't support that stuff
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Post by numbuhzero on Sept 4, 2004 16:46:37 GMT
I know this is an extremely old thread but I'm bored so yeah. anyway, i used to never be into slash or femmeslash. but now.. ive come to a conclusion. I'm only into a M/M relationship when it comes to things that are not from anime. I just dont see alot of m/m anime relationships these days and if I do, I wont support it. Mainly because I like one of the characters too much to give him up, or i just plain dont like the couple and theres something better. OR if theres a girl that could work out with one of teh guys. The thing is, the slash in anime...it doesnt flow with me. I dont support alot or any of it really.  Anything other than anime(KND or SP mainly) is good Now, its the exact opposite for F/F relationships. I can stand it soooooo much more in anime then in anything else. Mainly because there are alot of animes where theres no choice but to support a F/F couple(Azumanga Daioh for example). so ... yeah. i dont see too many F/F couples in anything cept certain anime.... ANYway.... M/M couples in KND- 1/4-This is actually the only slash couple I fully support of ALL slash couples. I officially love this couple and when it comes to fanfics, there are alot of cute ones out there('ish' ROCKS people!! *tee hee teakettle and scone  * it was pretty much the one fanfic that got me into slash in the first place:)) I even say now, in any KND fic i write, no matter what the original couple is, 3 and 4 will always be together....UNLESS its a 1/4 fic. so yeah, i definitely am a 1/4 fan 4eva! 2/4-I can see it. Its cute in some ways. But I personally dont care for the direction it goes in. I'm not the biggest 2/4 fan but I can see it and thats all that counts right? i guess its kinda cute but i dont think it can compare to 1/4 1/2- I see them as friends. end of story. I cant see them being a couple. Chad/4-I pretty much made this up thinking of random slash couples in KND. Its visible IMO and it could work out IF 1/4 wasnt so cute and Chad/Zero(me) didnt exist so HA! 4/30c-hehe No. I like certain love/hate relationships but this is DEFINITELY not one of them. especially since its also a fav. character/least fav character couple which i cant stand at all. Biggest problem with this one is that I can actually see it for some odd reason but I mainly see Four pulling away from 30c so it makes me sick so yeah, i hate this couple basically. F/F 3/5-pretty much the same as 1/2. just friends. 3/86-I cant see it totally but its just....ehh... 5/86-Cant see it so yeah... 362/86-The ONLY KND f/f couple i support. end of story. hehe go 362/86! okay Zero's rambling so yeah She'll go bye bye now.... |
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Post by numbuh183 on Sept 4, 2004 21:10:12 GMT
Well, I'll throw in my thoughts about homosexual couples- HomosexualityI actually don't see anything wrong with homosexuality. I'm not gay, but I don't think it's fair to tease (or something like that) somebody just because their sexuality is different(I've seen it happen to somebody who somebody else claimed that person was gay, but nobody was sure of that person's actual sexuality ). TV couplesWell, my only thoughts about the TV slash couples is that if that TV show was like not G rated, then I would consider it possible. But with shows for kids like KND, I don't think it would be that possible. I mean, a lot *coughs* all*coughs* of kids I know are disgusted by anything that has to do with homosexuality. |
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Post by pinkdenim on Sept 5, 2004 15:41:08 GMT
That is very true, Sunny. But that's what fanfics are for, right? ;D
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Post by numbuh183 on Sept 5, 2004 19:30:10 GMT
That is very true, Sunny. But that's what fanfics are for, right? ;D Yup^^ |
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It's fixed now.
Not to say that I haven't indulged in reading KND slashfics (and I really enjoyed some of them).
Anything other than anime(KND or SP mainly) is good 
* it was pretty much the one fanfic that got me into slash in the first place:)) I even say now, in any KND fic i write, no matter what the original couple is, 3 and 4 will always be together....UNLESS its a 1/4 fic. so yeah, i definitely am a 1/4 fan 4eva!