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Post by RisanF on Mar 9, 2004 19:54:05 GMT
Not so. Homosexuality is NOT defined by whether one is in a relationship with a person of the same gender, but by how that person *feels* about those of their own gender and about the opposite gender. Someone can practice celibacy, choosing not to have a partner, and *still* be gay and proud of it. Elton John (before he met his long-term partner) is a good example of this. (looks up "homosexuality" in dictionary) 'Fraid you're right. But I still believe that you shouldn't judge someone's orientation just by the way they act. After all. this concept works the other way around, does it not? I'd have never known Elton John was gay if it wasn't spelled out.
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Post by pinkdenim on Mar 9, 2004 20:13:09 GMT
Here's my option:
I like most people I have nothing agenst m/m and f/f relationships, it's just that I can't see any (Besides Mr Wink and Mr Fibb) happening.
Nigel/Haogie - Come to think of it, This is the first time I've given these two any thought, I've jus never seen any proof, I may be wrong, tell me if I am ^^.
Nigel/Wally - This couple does look pretty cute and I've seen a few fanfics about them, it could work, if Nigel gives up Lizzie and Wally drops his crush on Kuki.
Haogie/Wally - I think their friendship is to strong to turn into anything romantic.
Kuki/Abby - Hmmm, It's hard to think about this couple, but I just can't really picture it, Although Abby hasn't reviled a crush on any guy yet, she does seem straight to me.
What I REALLY hate about slash Fanfics is when they pair up every character with any other member of the same sex they can find, they usally turn out very tacky, unless done right (And I can't think of a way it can be done right, but that's just me..)
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Post by RisanF on Mar 9, 2004 20:30:25 GMT
What I REALLY hate about slash Fanfics is when they pair up every character with any other member of the same sex they can find, they usally turn out very tacky, unless done right (And I can't think of a way it can be done right, but that's just me..) It is possible to put out a respectible piece of work featuring even mulitiple slash couples. But you're right: there is an overabundance of tackiness in slash fanfics, which is of course my core point.
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Post by tako on Mar 10, 2004 2:36:44 GMT
I know, really. Heero/Duo?! Duo/Wufei, all the way! Ehe. No seriously, Heero has Relena and there are many occasions in the manga series (okay, like two -_-;; ) where Duo flirts with Wufei, so Duo/Wufei is much better in my opinion. But anyway, that's off the subject. I was about to bring up Cardcaptor Sakura, but RisanF beat me to it. I really don't find anything wrong with Sakura/Tomoyo, because it's just so innocent and cute. In any couple involving kids ten years old, whether it's same sex or opposite sex, the romance should stick to being social, holding hands, giving each other presents, hugging, crushes, and blushes, etc. The furthest to go is a kiss on the cheek. Otherwise, it just messes up something that used to be good. I can't remember when, but there was one time in an episode when Numbuh 2 said to Numbuh 1, "You've saved me plenty of times," or something like that. I can't remember though. Oh and in C.H.A.D., Numbuh 2 said, "What do we do now, Numbuh 1? Numbuh 1?" and in G.R.O.W.-U.P., after Numbuh 1 left and the ice cream truck passed by, Numbuh 2 said, "It's just not the same without Numbuh 1." Yes, I do read a bit too much into things like these. I don't think there's enough there for 1/2, but 2/4 on the other hand... Anyway, throwing another couple out... an f/f couple that I like is 86/362. Why? I don't know, I imagine that Numbuh 86 looks up to and admires Numbuh 362 and so in my mind, I think of it as kind of a... hm... I guess as a Ritsuko/Maya relationship (from Neon Genesis Evangelion).
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Post by OneEyedPimp20 on Mar 10, 2004 3:24:05 GMT
I also have a relationship like 86/362. There's Haruka/Michiru from Sailor Moon. Just telling I don't watch it. It grossed out. There's Naru/Mitsune, Naru/Mutsumi, Naru/Motoko and Naru/Shinobu from Love Hina. I read em alot. A lot. It's like Homer said: I want a non-gay explanation! Man I hate homos. I just like lesbos. But I like slash fics. It's my opinion anyway. That's what big guys do. Please don't kill me, I'm too young to die for this. Btw for the legal same sex marriage in San Francis, I hope it's not too illegal. (sarcasm) I saw the news. Don't ask me. Ask Mr. president himself.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Mar 10, 2004 3:34:29 GMT
You're not starting to turn into one of "those" types of slash fans, are you? And you're telling ME not to read too deeply into things? Save that Gundam Wing didn't even HAVE a season two (anime typically doesn't work in seasons), but I digress. Whatever the case dude, you seem to forget who it is you're talking to. You really should know me better than you let on.
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Post by RisanF on Mar 10, 2004 9:21:47 GMT
And you're telling ME not to read too deeply into things? Well, I do sometimes wonder if I risk hypocrisy. Perhaps. Maybe you turn out to be one of the good yuri people. But c'mon, don't pick at me for refering to a non-existant season. Though I'm sure if Gundam Wing had a second season, it would be really good. You know, seeing how Season II is better than Season I in a certain other show. (heh, heh, heh)
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Mar 10, 2004 10:38:51 GMT
Well, I do sometimes wonder if I risk hypocrisy. *Smacks forehead* *shrug* Whatever the case, I might do same-gender couplings, but I won't do outright erotica. I agree. Good as Season One was, Sonic the Hedgehog Season Two was where the real classic episodes were. It also managed to carry on a storyline and actually do a decent job of it, unlike a certain other Second Season.
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Post by RisanF on Mar 10, 2004 11:16:27 GMT
That's enough. I was just trying to make a polite admission, so I don't need snide, sarcasm comments as thanks for it.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Mar 10, 2004 11:24:17 GMT
That's enough. I was just trying to make a polite admission, so I don't need snide, sarcasm comments as thanks for it. Excuse me. I didn't realize I was being rude. You're right, I should've considered my response better.
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Post by RisanF on Mar 10, 2004 11:34:54 GMT
Excuse me. I didn't realize I was being rude. You're right, I should've considered my response better. It's alright. Despite my outburst, I really have no desire to fight with a fellow fan of Chrono Trigger, outside of totally crushing your anti-Season II revolution. Clever jibe about Sonic the Hedgegog, btw.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Mar 10, 2004 11:41:32 GMT
It's alright. Despite my outburst, I really have no desire to fight with a fellow fan of Chrono Trigger, outside of totally crushing your anti-Season II revolution. Clever jibe about Sonic the Hedgegog, btw. Thank you ^__^. I have no desire to fight with fellow fans of quality gaming either. As for Season Two... Eh, I've posted my reasons. I'll admit, my first reasons (which you and me argued over a few months back) were totally stupid, but the stuff I've got listed on my page is practically there to stay (though I may do some cleanup on that article later). But there's always gonna be people who like season two better, just as there are always going to be people saying Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger (Yes, I actually have seen people say this).
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Post by pinkdenim on Mar 10, 2004 17:10:51 GMT
I can't remember when, but there was one time in an episode when Numbuh 2 said to Numbuh 1, "You've saved me plenty of times," or something like that. I can't remember though. Oh and in C.H.A.D., Numbuh 2 said, "What do we do now, Numbuh 1? Numbuh 1?" and in G.R.O.W.-U.P., after Numbuh 1 left and the ice cream truck passed by, Numbuh 2 said, "It's just not the same without Numbuh 1." Yes, I do read a bit too much into things like these. I don't think there's enough there for 1/2, but 2/4 on the other hand... Oh yeah ^^ I guess I just don't really look out for N/H proof, since I hadn't even gave it any thought before.
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Post by tako on Mar 11, 2004 0:29:54 GMT
Yes, me too. In fact, my dad says it all the time. -_-;;; He really likes the graphics. I must say that the graphics are more advanced, but I like the old CT graphics a lot better. Also, I hate Chrono Cross's overly convoluted storyline. I mean, it was like they kept on thinking of new ideas and adding them to the story just because they could. And Kid in general was just really annoying. Sorry, enough ranting about that.
Anyway...
No, my own sister doesn't like same sex couples either. And she has to live with me, always going like...
Me: Oh, don't you like Mr. Wink/Mr. Fibb? Ika: Um... Me: If you disagree with me, that's okay. Be honest. Ika: Okay, I think it's stupid. Me: Wahhhh!!! WHYYY??????? Ika: ... (thinking, "Somebody, please help me.")
Unfortunately, despite my frequent urging, she hasn't registered for this board, so she can't express her opinions. But, other than her, I'm sure there are many other people who don't like f/f or m/m couples.
Anyway...........
I don't have any new couples to throw out. ;_; I'll try to think of a random one. Let's see...... ... ... ... ... Chewy & Gooey.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Mar 11, 2004 1:39:59 GMT
Yes, me too. In fact, my dad says it all the time. -_-;;; He really likes the graphics. I must say that the graphics are more advanced, but I like the old CT graphics a lot better. Also, I hate Chrono Cross's overly convoluted storyline. I mean, it was like they kept on thinking of new ideas and adding them to the story just because they could. And Kid in general was just really annoying. Sorry, enough ranting about that. If anything's wrong with Chrono Cross, its the gameplay. From having a lousy magic system (as usual with Square's ideas, it sounds good on paper but doesn't work well in implementation) to the battle and experience system... as usual, Square does nearly everything wrong. I just find the game hard to get into because of it's lousy gameplay.
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