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Post by Cap'n Veg on Jul 12, 2007 13:15:07 GMT
OK, so I was watching the news this morning. This mother and her toddler were on a plane going somewhere(I wasn't paying attention to all the details) Apparantley the toddler kept on saying "Bye, Bye, plane." (or something like that ) over and over and over and- etc. Obviously people were starting to get annoyed. A flight attendant told the mother that she needs to keep her child quiet. The flight attendant told her she should use benadryl for the baby. The mother refused, saying "I'm not going to drug my child" and they turned the plane around and kicked them off.
My opinion: I can't really say I have any empathy for the mother. My mom would slip me some benadryl if I ever got unruly. (Then again, my parents would've probably told me to be quiet if I kept saying "bye bye plane" over and over. And I probably woulda listened. I wonder if the mother in that case actually tried that...) And I was on a red eye flight not too long ago. I was trying to get what sleep I possibly could(which is almost impossible on a plane), but there was this baby in front of me. And the baby was crying. Actually, beyond crying, more like screaming as loud as he possibly could. That baby wasn't even making noises that sounded human. And I was pretty close to shooting myself. So I can't really say I have a patience for annoying kids/babies on plane flights.
So, what's your opinion on this?
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Post by dizma on Jul 12, 2007 13:20:27 GMT
my parents would probably hit me, making me instant stop, and grab my gameboy ^_^
yesh, baby's on a plane is the same as snakes on a plane. they act when you don't want to, they're annoying and they hurt... bigtime.
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Post by camper on Jul 12, 2007 13:34:18 GMT
Playful and annoying, but I would say the air crew and mothers should control toddlers. Imagine the last time I remember an "Air Crash Investigation" episode which shows kids inside the cockpit, it's far worse than that.
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Post by thesuki on Jul 12, 2007 14:16:25 GMT
I wouldn't go so far as to DRUG the kid, but the mother should have brought things to keep the child occupied. Coloring books, storybooks (that she could read to the kid), etc. I'm not surprised they got kicked off.
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Post by camper on Jul 12, 2007 14:42:14 GMT
Me neither, annoyances can drive people insane. I would say keep the toddlers busy. If it's a baby, hopefully pacifiers would do.
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Post by numbuh7654 on Jul 12, 2007 15:31:48 GMT
That made me smile.... XD OK, I agree with keeping the baby quiet. At times, when I go to a mosque-I'm a Muslim- to pray, as if it wasn't bad enough the place was crowded, there were babies that just would NOT STOP CRYING!! And since we started praying then, we couldn't stop to keep them quiet or we'd start again. (Its not good to bring crying babies in the mosque in our religion, but some moms don't listen... ) But I can't relate to the actions, nor could I relate to the plane turning back. First of all, babies and toddlers are pretty delicate. If you drug them, you risk retarding them or smothering their mental capacity during growth. Even if it doesn't until after QUITE a few doses, which brings me to my second point, the baby might wake up again. What're you gonna do, keep drugging the kid? What's wrong with just dealing with problem? And kicking them off isn't exactly an option. First of all, plane timings are strict for a reason. They have to be precise becuase if they don't, one airplane might take off, another could be landing, and then they'd crash into each other. THEN what? You just did the following; -killed some 700 hundred people -destroyed 2 PLANES-possibly more- -caused some SERIOUS carnage, blocking the runaway for QUITE awhile -delayed flights for THOUSANDS of people-and pissed THEM off -made the news headlines as "The Reenactment of 9/11" -made the mother look bad, and the toddler look responsible for hundreds of deaths because he wouldn't stop saying, "Bye Bye Plane" (or w/e) ...ALL just because a toddler pissed a few people off. And you accomplished...what exactly? If the toddler's pissing you off, you should have made some precautions. Get him a big book with lots of pictures, give him a gameboy...or just play SILENT paddycake. That just made me think...saying "bye bye plane" just made me wonder if he was refering to 9/11
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Post by Cap'n Veg on Jul 12, 2007 15:41:42 GMT
numbuh 385- That's a bit of an...extreme example... and a little inacurate. The plane would announce that it was turning back, so everyone working at the airport would be informed, making a crash next to impossible. But I agree on the not turning the plane around part. I'd rather deal with the baby than deal with waiting longer till my destination. (alittlebitofftopic- I remember having to wait an hour to take off because some girl threw up right before we were about to take off and we had to go back.) 'sides, if the mother yelled at the kid and told him to shut up, he should shut up. @drugging the baby- What? It's not that bad. Give them some baby benadryl and it just makes them drowsy. It's not like your slipping the baby nyquil...
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Post by camper on Jul 12, 2007 15:48:33 GMT
Besides about turning the plane back, I recommend deal with it. If you don't cooperate, you'll be charged for not listening to the crew members. Anyway, turning back may not only waste time and money, it also wastes aircraft fuels and giving unnecessary distress of delays given to the control tower.
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Jul 13, 2007 13:19:22 GMT
That's just another example of a parent not parenting her pwecious wecious l'il bundle of joy... Eww. ;D If she didn't want to give the child Benadryl, she should have done something to keep the kid occupied. Kids have NO attention spans. Not that I'm a child expert or anything, but I have three young ones who have no attention spans. I've also given the kids Bendaryl before bed if they were overtired and cranky. OK, so give me the Bad Parent award of the century. ;D Yes, I did it, but very very rarely. I'm sure most, if not all, parents resorted to that at one time or another...it's just something ya don't admit in this PC parenting culture.
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Post by Shwoo on Jul 13, 2007 13:59:59 GMT
The way I heard it, other passengers on the plane defended the mother, so it can't have been that annoying. And suddenly telling a patron (Is that the right word?) to drug their kid, and kicking them off the plane when they refuse is beyond rude. And repeating the same phrase over and over isn't the most annoying thing the kid could've been doing. Here's an article on it.
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Post by camper on Jul 13, 2007 14:15:14 GMT
Ahh, the news articles for it. Well, it's better to prepare and do something better. That mother regretted it, eventually even the news and press also came out for that. She should have "Be safe than sorry".
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Post by qalissa on Jul 13, 2007 15:00:46 GMT
I read the news in Yahoo News lol.
And I think the toddler repeating his words again and again is quite okay. I mean after all, they are really cute, and with him saying that over again. Irresistable for me to ignore. Anyway, the toddler didnt know anything and of course, he is, after all, bored. Maybe he has anough sleep?
It is unfair for them to turn back and kick them off, because she paid for her ticket and now her money had come to a waste.
Recently, I heard 5 babies at the same time screaming their heads off as if the were about to explode when I was in a really long airflight and the people were still okay with it. And I could still sleep no problem. In time they will bored at doing that anyway.And I could almost guarantee in my next long flight, which is very near, there will be at a minimum of less than 3 babies will be crying. Heard them every time I go somewhere with an airplane.
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Post by camper on Jul 13, 2007 15:05:42 GMT
Are you sure? It gets more annoying if you think it's adorable, believe me, I hear those before. I thought it was ok and nice (or adorable) at first, but when it becomes non-stop, I feel like I want to take a knife and kill them. But since I'm a kind-hearted person who doesn't want to do something stupid for crime's sake, I would order the crew or the mother to stop it. If that mother doesn't agree, sueing is only a waste of money, but a security charge or fine would do nicely.
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Post by jill2sweet on Jul 13, 2007 15:09:43 GMT
There are more alternatives to keeping a child quiet other than giving them bendryl. The flight attendants should have given the child something to keep him occupied before even suggesting drugging him. If the child was screaming and the mother refused to make him be quiet, I think that's enough to kick them off the plane. But a child repeating "Bye, bye plane" and the mother refusing to drug him? They shouldn't of been kicked off.
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Post by camper on Jul 13, 2007 15:18:51 GMT
Truly, but annoyance cannot be calmed easily unless actions are taken first. Besides, every air crew must have at least a chief managing it.
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