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Post by gailoraanf on Jul 13, 2007 17:15:32 GMT
The sheer title of this thread makes me think of how dramatic everyone is acting. It's not that big a deal.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 13, 2007 21:39:44 GMT
Indeed. Jeez.
Frankly I support the mother. A baby repeating one phrase is not annoying.
If I had a baby and someone told me to drug it, especially for such a stupid reason, I'd tell them "You must be on drugs yourself." Seriously, drugging babies is the lowest of the low. Do these people WANT the future rulers of the world to be disadvantaged and messed up?
If I have kids, I'm NEVER drugging them. And if I find out my wife is, I'll divorce her immediately.
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Jul 14, 2007 0:44:35 GMT
This has got to be all over the mommie boards, but since I avoid those places, I haven't read what any mommies had to say about it.
There has to be more to this story than they're saying.
That kid HAD to be screaming. There wouldn't have been such a reaction if the kid wasn't screaming.
Turning around the plane wasn't necessary, however.
Children's Benadryl wasn't called for in this case, but I'd like to see those of you saying "I'd never ever drug my kid" reconsider it when your kid is overtired and keeps getting up and screaming in the middle of the night. For heaven's sakes, it's only a mild dose of something that will help the child get some sleep. It's not like the flight attendant suggested baby Valium!
I've done it, like I said. I can count on one hand the number of times I've done it. That hardly makes me a Bad Mommy PersonTM, IMHO.
This is why I won't bring my kids on planes, even though they're not babies. They're wild enough in the car. Planes are not the way to travel if one has young kids. There's not much for them to do, the seats are cramped, and it's very very easy for them to get bored--hence carrying on and screaming. Even if you bring stuff to keep the kids occupied, sometimes that doesn't last more than a few minutes before the kids get bored with the stuff and get all whiny again.
Besides, I hate flying.
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Post by gailoraanf on Jul 14, 2007 1:37:27 GMT
Children's Benadryl wasn't called for in this case, but I'd like to see those of you saying "I'd never ever drug my kid" reconsider it when your kid is overtired and keeps getting up and screaming in the middle of the night. For heaven's sakes, it's only a mild dose of something that will help the child get some sleep. It's not like the flight attendant suggested baby Valium! You mean like when I had to watch my sister for a few nights, and she made me massage her feet every second throughout the night, and if I stopped to close my eyes shed wake up and scream? And how my aunt said that I should use Benadryl, but I didn't, because I wouldn't drug her? And how afterwards, I got so sick from staying up nonstop that I was out of school for a few hours, sleeping, but then had to go in late? Honestly, I went through hell, but it was worth it knowing that I didn't give a child drugs to keep them from screaming. |
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Post by jill2sweet on Jul 14, 2007 1:53:56 GMT
Okay, guys, lets not turn this into another war over what's right and what's wrong. Ease up on the sarcasm and the bitter words.
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Post by Cap'n Veg on Jul 14, 2007 1:59:18 GMT
OK, so Madame and I here appear to be the only people who see that giving baby benadryl to a kid not that big of a deal.
@gail-
And what would have been so bad about giving your sister some benadryl? It would have been better for both of you. (...why did you have to massage her feet?)
Hmmm, hate to sound PC, but maybe we shouldn't refer to it as "drugging" the kid, makes it sound worse than it actually is.
@whoever said they slept through 5 crying babies-
I'm jealous. I wish I could fall right to sleep on a plane like that. But unfortunately, I, and probably many other people, can't quite do that.
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Post by thesuki on Jul 14, 2007 2:31:45 GMT
You have to remember, most of us are talking theoretically. At most, no one's given an example that lasted more than one day, and certainly don't have the full-time responsibility of a child.
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Jul 14, 2007 3:26:23 GMT
Man.
I mean screaming as in overtired and cranky. NOT screaming because of any other reason.
I still don't think it's a crime to give a child a SMALL dose of Benadryl as a last resort if nothing else has worked.
Believe me, it's NOT easy raising kids. Parenting is more competitive than it ever was, and people are much more quick to criticize...i. e. the "PC parenting" culture.
Wow. I can't believe the reaction this has gotten.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 14, 2007 3:36:39 GMT
Thoughout my teens I supported myself by babysitting. I never had a problem with it. Kids are really easy to work with if you try to understand them instead of trying to be an authority.
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Jul 14, 2007 3:47:07 GMT
Dude, I'm just going to say this, because I'm getting upset with you again, and I'm not about to go to "BBQ Pit" territory again...
Babysitting is in no way, shape, or form comparable to parenting.
Plus to be a good parent, you have to show the kids SOME authority...you have to let them know who's in charge.
That doesn't mean households are run like Army training camps. Kids need a firm sense of who's in control as well as lots of love.
Please, unless you've BTDT, don't comment on subjects that you don't have direct experience with.
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Post by thesuki on Jul 14, 2007 3:59:10 GMT
Speaking as one who's babysat and taken care of kids at church for about a year, babysitters are about fun. They dont' use authority like parents have to. Kids respond to them like a big kid to play with. It worked for me. I always played with the kids, found new ways to keep them having fun and laughing, and by the time the parents got home, the kids were too worn out from having fun to make a fuss about going to bed or be crazy on the way home for a chnage. Win-win for everyone.
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Post by aims on Jul 14, 2007 5:29:14 GMT
aww, this poor kid, damn airlines spoiling all the fun.
seriously, their actions were lame. the kid was more than likely saying "by bye plane" because it was leaving the airport?
i dont think theres ever been a case here like that, people just tell the mothers to keep the kids quiet (and the ones saying so usually want to sleep)
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Post by camper on Jul 14, 2007 7:46:55 GMT
Hmm, if I were taking my upcoming flight on next year, hopefully I will not have the same news here, to be honest, I don't like crying babies too, it's noisy and very hard to keep it quiet.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 14, 2007 9:57:56 GMT
@ Madame What are you getting mad about? I didn't say anything mean to you. And if no one is allowed to talk about things they don't have experience with, then I guess we need to stop talking about politics (none of us has ever held political office, after all). aww, this poor kid, damn airlines spoiling all the fun. seriously, their actions were lame. the kid was more than likely saying "by bye plane" because it was leaving the airport? Yeah, that sounds about like something a kid would do. Especially if they were pretending to "talk" to another plane before lift-off. The imagination of the young is sooooo adorable. |
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Jul 14, 2007 11:24:19 GMT
It was you saying that "kids are easy to work with if you try to understand them instead of being an authority."
Parenting is a mixture of the two. You can't remove authority from parenting. Sorry. Do that and you get this "I want to be my kid's best friend" nonsense.
And unless you've been a parent, you have no idea how tough the job is.
So don't be so quick to judge parents who HAVE given their kids Benadryl as a last resort to help them get to sleep.
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