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Post by kndforever on May 23, 2009 15:22:25 GMT
do anyone criticize Mr.W for letting Father survive the Series Finale?!?
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Post by krossfire on Jul 4, 2009 16:23:58 GMT
I just had a thought about this: Numbuh 4 ending up becoming a doctor really doesn't fit into his character. I know people change their personality when they grow up, but at least in the show please show some consistency in it. I mean, Numbuh 3 ended up becoming the president of the Rainbow Monkey Corp so why can't Numbuh 4 end up working in a job that requires bravery and strength, since those are his traits that we can identify with?
You know, I was just watching Man Vs. Wild and after seeing Bear Grylls he is EXACTLY how I picture Numbuh 4 ending up to be. What he's doing is pretty much brave and bold, and requires a lot of physical and mental strength to do it. And though Wally doesn't look smart he can pull through any bad situations he's in, just like in Man Vs. Wild.
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Post by GoldenFlither on Jul 5, 2009 19:03:23 GMT
Quite honestly, I don't know what was going on in their heads. I mean, the show never made any sense anyhow, but I don't think the writers were - I really hate to say this - intelligent enough to pull it all together in a shrewd way. Numbuh 4 was a prime example of that. (I was thinking, at the most, he'd go to college to get into the NFL or something sports-related. Soccer, maybe.)
We all know it: that entire bit with the live-action older KND operatives was redundant.
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Post by littlemissa311 on Jul 6, 2009 16:10:44 GMT
I still wanted the Delightful Children to turn back into Sector Z
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Post by destinyinevitable on Jul 10, 2009 6:54:28 GMT
INTERVIEWS was the first and only episode of KND to ever actually ...make me kind of angry.
I mean, the downfall (and yet, surprisingly the upside) is that the end when Numbuh five says "He bought it". Therefore, at least part of the story Numbuhs 2 through 5 tell must have been a lie. So the story can not be canon. The brightside of this, is if you don't like parts you can just assume that those are the parts the team made up. However, it's a double edged sword in that because we don't know, it renders the entire episode pointless.
That and nothing was answered, and the pairings of 2 and 5 as well as 3 and 4 seemed annoyingly almost fanfictiony convenient (I do not object to either couple, but I'd rather only one of them be a couple. I don't even care which one, but both of them was unrealistic).
That's my rant on it, anyways.
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Post by Celra on Jul 11, 2009 12:16:09 GMT
I HATED live action Kuki I wanted to smack her! I understand growing up but be a COOL adult please! I hate numbuh 363 too!
This episode sorta sucked all around.
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Post by destinyinevitable on Jul 13, 2009 0:30:05 GMT
363 was a brat. And 362 showing that kind of favoritism seemed out of character.
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Post by krossfire on Jul 13, 2009 17:21:04 GMT
Watching it back, I think INTERVIEWS is a poor finale. The goodbye scenes still are a poignant, great moment, but the rest is just bad. It was hastily written, poorly conceived, and leaves more questions than answers that you really don't feel a sense of closure to the show. Unless, they're planning a GKND show and opening up a new chapter for the series. As for the pairings, don't blame the writers, YOU GUYS wanted Kuki to end up with Wally, and Abby with Hoagie. If anything, they're giving you guys what you wanted, and they listened.
I think everyone has already said about this, but the live action parts really bothers me. They are out of character, aren't likable at all, and every sense of personality that they had on their child, cartoon version are completely lost. At least, since you guys are ending the show, why don't you give your voice actors a real screen time? They could play as the adult versions of the characters they're giving voice to.
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Post by destinyinevitable on Jul 13, 2009 20:32:41 GMT
Krossfire - I'd actually disagree with you on one aspect of the live action...I found the live action Hoagie very believable. The other 3, god no, but he seemed realistic. His joke delivery was spot-on.
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Post by Lord Malachite on Jul 14, 2009 1:09:06 GMT
I actually liked the live action segments, I thought that they were unique and brought some semblance of reality into a series that often revels in being ludicrous, yet tackking said ludicrous situations with absolute sincerity and seriousness. 363 is a brat, but I don't think it was unreasonable for 362 to pull Sector V off the cake assignment. Yes, there's a nasty nepotism factor--but Harvey's team backs it up with their accomplishments. Let's face it--Sector V never successfully completed a cake mission. Moreover, I think it balances Rachel's character a little for her to do this. She lets Nigel get away with far too much. Remember, in GIRLFRIEND, he willfully and in her face disobeys a direct order from Rachel to go after Lizzie. Rachel doesn't do anything about it, or even try to stop him. In fact, when we see Rachel again at the end of the episode, she acts as though nothing has happened. One could argue Rachel is showing him she isn't wrapped around his pinky finger. If you're a 1/362 supporter, you could also slyly say she's punishing him for not turning to her in his hour of need. As for the plot, I think that everything Sector V told Father was true. This means that Father will be looking for Nigel in all the wrong places, where he is already back on earth, right under Father's nose.
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Post by krossfire on Jul 15, 2009 9:49:57 GMT
I feel the live action scenes were poorly acted to be honest. I really don't feel the actor's enthusiasm for their characters which makes those scenes really hard to watch. It's bad enough their scenes had really low production values, as if they were shot at the last minute at a backstage somewhere. It also kinda upsets me that the voice actors for Numbuh 1-5 did not play as the adult versions of their characters, considering they are better suited, as well as they know their characters all too well since they spent 4-5 years providing the voices for them.
I still stubbornly believe that INTERVIEWS is a mess though. The treasure hunt is a poor excuse to have all the villains in one place which I thought it is unnecessary anyway since they have too many screen time in the series already. Why not focus on the minor characters in the KND organization?
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Post by Lord Malachite on Jul 15, 2009 22:43:55 GMT
I don't think the minor characters should have been focused on. Sure, it might've been nice to see more Cree, Chad, Fanny, Rachel, Patton, and others--however, being the series finale, this was largely Sector V's show, as it should have been. Most of the action centered squarely around Sector V--they were how the show started, it's only fitting they are how the show ends.
The live action scenes, IMO, were meant to come off as they did. The characters are only briefly recomissioned, only able to remember things for a short time--in the end, it appears this is misleading based on the phone call Abby makes, but they are acting. They're adults now, they're not the same as when they were kids.
Nigel made a pact with his friends that they would stay young--but they have to give off the facade of being adults to Father. Clearly, a very long time has passed since Nigel went to the GKND. To me, the biggest question is how Father still appears so young in comparison to the others.
Overall, this is not the best series finale they could have done, but it's a suitable one.
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Post by krossfire on Jul 25, 2009 18:42:14 GMT
Well, I was thinking of instead of showing all the villains in the finale, how about showing the all the minor operatives in the KND instead? Wouldn't it be more nicer if the operatives that Numbuh 1 spent time with working, chatting, doing missions together were the focus instead of the villains? Of course, they wouldn't know about Numbuh 1's journey, but he could look at them, deep in thought while reminiscing the times they had spend together. It shows what is really going on in his mind when he looks at his friends and comrades. Just thought it'd be more meaningful instead of him beating a bunch of villains, which he did plenty of times throughout the show.
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Post by GoldenFlither on Jul 25, 2009 21:38:34 GMT
That live-action bit had the worst acting since any movie of Steven Seagal's. Everything about it was bland. Even the voice actors and actresses could've pulled it off better.
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Post by Lord Malachite on Jul 27, 2009 9:16:23 GMT
Krossfire--
I think I can understand what you're getting at, in regards to showcasing Nigel's relationship to characters. I admit, it would've been great to see Nigel get a sequence along the lines of what J.D. got in the finale of Scrubs, as I feel that was such a simple and powerful way to impress upon the audience a character's influence on the people in his life. I don't entirely know why they chose to feature so many villains in the final episode, but I'm assuming it was one of those creative decisions made in an attempt to make the episode more fun.
GoldenFlither--
I'm afraid we'll have to disagree on the live action segments. While I would not hold them up as any kind of great achievement in acting, I was intrigued at what the characters evolved into. I understand your position of preferring the VAs, but they weren't used, which indicates that either they weren't interested, or this was a creative decision. It works for me, obviously it didn't for you, but I do think you're exaggerating the situation.
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