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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 26, 2004 9:04:04 GMT
Hey guys, I figured that, you know, there's a 2/5 discussion thread and MULITPLE discussion threads for 1/5 and 3/4, so hey, why not one for 1/3 and 4/5? ^__^
Anyway, we all know how I feel about 1/3. 4/5 was basically an offshoot of that, at first it happened out of necessity, but then I noticed how they interacted on the show, and realized that it actually works better than many people seem to suspect. I mean Abby picks on Wally yet at the same time she cares for him, and in Season Three in particular he and her have had a lot of interaction.
The only real problem I have with Hoagie, but it's not like there's not a lot of girls to pair him with. A lot of people like to pair him with Lizzie (which I must say is just, ughh...). I myself have thought of pairing him with the blonde girl of the DCFDTL, and more recently have considered the possibility of 2/86.
So, your thoughts?
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Post by pinkdenim on Jul 26, 2004 11:06:40 GMT
Well....
1/3, I think is very cute (Thanks to your fanfic Love Wars) and I agree that she teases him and he is usally the one who is nicest to her. But still, it takes two of my fave couples and rips them to shreds.
But 4/5 on the other hand I don't like. I guess they don't seem to have any more than a friend relationship. Friends tease eachother all the time and note it's usally his crushes she teases him about, I mean even though she is usally the girl who keeps her cool she would get at least a little jealous if she liked him, wouldn't she?
And I agree on thinking that 2/Lizzie is the suck. But I also hate all KND/DC couples... Infact, I'd hate it more if he was with a DC. As for 2/86 *giggle* I think it's pretty cute! (But then again I think most 86 couples are cute).
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 26, 2004 11:33:50 GMT
And I agree on thinking that 2/Lizzie is the suck. But I also hate all KND/DC couples... Infact, I'd hate it more if he was with a DC. As for 2/86 *giggle* I think it's pretty cute! (But then again I think most 86 couples are cute). You know, honestly I was expecting you to debate that Francine belongs only to Numbuh One and no one else. My how the world turns. To be truthful, I prefer 2/86 over 1/86 for three reasons: 1. 1/86 interferes with 1/3 ^__^ 2. 2/86 allows you to joke about them being, well, a 286 (a 286 was an old-fashioned type of computer, it's what we used to use before Windows came out). You can make the same joke with 4/86 as well... 3. No offense but IMO Nigel and Francine are too much alike to really work. I'm honestly thinking of trying out the 2/86 angle... the more I think about it the more fun it seems. Oh, and about Abby teasing him about his crushes... ummm, no, I don't think Abby would get jealous just because she knew he had crushes on other people (assuming she herself had any feelings for him). She's too cool-minded, for one thing. She's basically like a big sister to Kuki so she would never rival with her, and Wally's crush on a teacher is one Abby wouldn't take seriously to begin with. It's true though that Abby probably doesn't feel anything serious--I've never exactly pictured Abby as being the romantic type. That's Kuki's department. But, eh *shrug* as the song goes, they're perfectly mismatched. |
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Post by pinkdenim on Jul 26, 2004 12:00:01 GMT
Heh, how did I know that you'd use that "argument" against me XD.
Haha. Very funny. But I don't see how that counts as anything.
True but when I like a certain couple it would be for either one of two reasons.
1. The two characters aren't very alike.
2. They have alot of conflict. (Which 1/86 have TONES of)
And plus. Isn't the opposite rule just so it can create some kind of conflict? (Or at least some kind of obstacle like that).
She would so get jealous. I mean, it's only human to get jealous! Even for someone who keeps their cool all the time. And I seem to remember Abby losing it a few times. And mostly being when something she likes is being taken away from her (Remember when stickybeard took her candy?).
I'm not saying Abby would try to pick a fight with Kuki or something I'm just saying that she might grit her teeth or even a sad sigh or something if she was jealous.
Also, in K.I.S.S when Cree commented on how Haogie (Hank) was cuter than anyone she would ever date I seem to remember Abby attacking her....
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 26, 2004 12:43:04 GMT
Heh, how did I know that you'd use that "argument" against me XD. You're psychic? It's James Logic. It doesn't have to make sense, as long as it's fun and makes sense. See what I mean? ^_^ Ehmmm... actually no, there is some real-life basis in it. My current real-life girlfriend, for example (and no, it's not JessNumbuh20, who broke up with me like half a year ago) is pretty much the exact opposite of me yet we have a perfect relationship. Ehmmm, not necessarily. Yea, Abby lost her cool when someone tried to steal a valued possession, but that's nowhere near the same thing. Also, for all we know her picking on Wally might be her way of displaying jealousy. Ummm... I'm almost positive your memories are wrong. Besides that, they were already fighting so that doesn't really prove much. |
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Post by pinkdenim on Jul 26, 2004 13:08:31 GMT
Okay, but that only proves the point that opposites attract (Which I already knew anyway) not that a love/hate relationship can't work.
I know but a crush would mean more to her than her candy (I think 0_o) there for she may get even madder.
Hmmm... Maybe. But if it is then she is wayyy too good at hiding her emotions.
I don't know, that might be wrong but I know that Operation: KISS is reaking with 2/5 proof.
And about them already fighting, yes I know they were but that comment seemed to make her angry-er.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Jul 27, 2004 2:07:07 GMT
I know but a crush would mean more to her than her candy (I think 0_o) there for she may get even madder. Hmmm... Maybe. But if it is then she is wayyy too good at hiding her emotions. Well this IS Numbuh-flippin-Five we're talking about... And besides, even if she is jealous that doesn't necessarily mean she'll show it. I've met people like that in real life. I'd have to watch it again. I certainly didn't notice the 2/5 proof. |
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Post by parron on Jul 27, 2004 2:24:14 GMT
I'm just going to randomly pop in to say that 1/3 and 4/5 are my absolute least favorite couples... ever. I don't have any good reasons for hating them, I suppose, but my reasons are roughly:
1/3:
-- They're far too different. While it is true that people too much alike will often clash too much to make for a funcional relationship, the same goes for people that are too different.
-- I've yet to see any proof that either like eachother more then, well, then two members of the same team should. In fact, 99% of the "proof" I've seen for this pairing is based on things that I can't see as romantic in the least. Okay, Numbah 1 likes to applease her -- I should hope so, he's the leader of his team! Okay, so Numbah 3 is playful towards him. I should hope so, because it would be kinda OOC for her to not be friendly towards her allies! And so on.
-- It just doesn't make sense from Numbah 1's angle. If you like Lizzie or not, it's pretty obvious from the show that Numbah 1 likes her. So, Lizzie probably has a few traits he likes in girls... and Numbah 3 and Lizzie are about as different as she and Numbah 1.
4/5:
-- It just doesn't make sense. No, sorry, it does: It is a couple made because two other characters were already paired up, and they were leftovers. It's simply a different re-hash of the 2/Lizzie syndrome.
-- All the "proof" I've seen for it is, again, normal character interactions that you'd normally expect from a rather close-knit group of kids.
-- It just reeks of "Well, I paired my favorite characters together, and I don't want to leave anyone out"-itis.
XD I expect that pretty soon there will be a long counter arguement, to which I'd like to say in advance: I don't care. I probably won't bother reading anymore, but quite frankly since these couples have been mentioned I've been wanting a good excuse to reason against. I don't mean to change your mind, because I know it won't be. I also don't mean to sound rude, flame-y, or whatever. I'm mearly expressing my opnions, which I believe is that this thread is about.
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Post by pinkdenim on Jul 27, 2004 13:54:40 GMT
True, it's Numbuh 5 we're talking about here but we all know that she can express her emotions just as well as everyone else on the team (Remember Q.U.I.E.T?).
And on a side note, it isn't real life. It's a cartoon.
Well if you consider Nigel promising to Kuki that she'll be able to fight the ducky as 1/3 proof then I'm sure you'll find some 2/5 proof in K.I.S.S.
EDIT: Edited out a [now] useless comment...
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Post by pinkdenim on Jul 27, 2004 14:14:35 GMT
True, but I have seen cartoon characters (In KND and lots of other cartoons) get jealous.
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Post by parron on Jul 27, 2004 18:42:05 GMT
^^ For the record, the Mushi/Chad pairing in a joke one that I keep in there for the benifit of the friends who this inside joke is with. I'd just about die of shock if it happened, and so you might as well not try and offend me by dissing it, it's immature and I -- as just mentioned -- am not a true 'shipper of it anyway.
^^ Also, for the record, you're acting very immature for your age, wanting to know my favorite couples so you can diss them because I dissed yours. I said in my prior post, these are intirely my opinions and I couldn't care less as to what you think.
So please, act your age.
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Post by parron on Jul 27, 2004 19:13:49 GMT
But now that I have, I've noticed one of her favorite couples is, umm.... Mushi / Chad?!?!?!Excuse me, then, for mis-reading what you previously wrote. No need for apologies, there is almost nothing you could say -- and nothing at all relating to KND -- that would offend me, or make me change my opinions about you. I don't try and read meaning into what people write, but as a psycology nut I suppose it happens sometimes without my thinking about it. However, my opinions have not been changed in the least about you, and in fact have been reinforced! Perhaps I am reading too much into all this, and I really sincerly hope I am because what I see is very unpleasant indeed. And, for the record, it's spelled "whose." ^__^ |
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Post by scone on Jul 28, 2004 4:48:13 GMT
Other board members can attest to my civility (in fact I think there's only four times--counting this one--that I've ever flipped during a discussion on this board.. out of the hundreds of discussions I must have been in). i don't think she's necessarily talking about your civility, james. besides, civility isn't all that great anyways. a little self-effacing friendliness is way better. |
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Aug 1, 2004 6:35:22 GMT
Note: I went through and deleted all my previous responses to Parron and Scone in this thread. This is because, what with 1/3 and 4/5 being my favorite couples and all, I would hate to see those pairings lacking popularity just because the first thread about them came close to turning into a flamewar. 'Twould appreciate it if Parron would delete all the posts of hers save for the one I'm replying to below. Scone and Sam don't have to delete anything, but both have made one post each that refers to me and Parron's little arguement so I'd like to see that one gone too. Thank you! -- I've yet to see any proof that either like eachother more then, well, then two members of the same team should. In fact, 99% of the "proof" I've seen for this pairing is based on things that I can't see as romantic in the least. Okay, Numbah 1 likes to applease her -- I should hope so, he's the leader of his team! Okay, so Numbah 3 is playful towards him. I should hope so, because it would be kinda OOC for her to not be friendly towards her allies! And so on. To be completely honest, this is how I feel about every couple in the show. There's only two that have any real, solid evidence whatsoever--3/4 and 1/Lizzie, and 3/4 only really has Wally's crush on Kuki (there's no evidence whatsoever that she returns his affection). Now as for 1/Lizzie... Actually, as much as I hate to admit it, Kuki and Lizzie do have a few things in common. In particular they both have a soft spot for romance and a penchant for being totally unaware of the situation. As for wether Nigel really likes Lizzie, well, despite the fact that they're dating, I'd venture to say wether or not they really like each other as much as one would think is totally debatable. But I will say there IS some hint that neither are quite as attached to the other as some would like to believe. In all seriousness, I could've easily just paired up 2/5, but the fact is I decided 4/5 was much more adorable, plus more likeable--sorry to all the 2/5 fans, but to me that couple is as out-of-whack as 2/Lizzie. *shrug* I can actually see 4/5 working. It might have something to do with the fact that I always gravitate towards less popular things. .... No offense but this point is just a reiteration of the above one. Ehh, I don't think my counter-reply was SO lengthy. ^__^ |
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Post by tako on Aug 1, 2004 7:30:51 GMT
Yay, my turn to offer my opinions. 1/3Hm... I don't really like it that much. I don't know why really! Arg... Well, I guess that it seems to me that Numbuh 1 just doesn't really enjoy her company. They've never really had a moment where they chatted and smiled at each other, like 1 & 5's conversation at the end of ZOO. There's never been a time when they hugged, or had an argument, or even just hung out together. But I still think that it's kind of cute and I like finding 1/3 evidence (well, actually I just enjoy finding evidence, period. It's like a... hobby...  ). Although I don't really like it, I wouldn't say it's impossible, because I don't think it is. Even though their personalities are really different, I think they could work as a couple. 4/5I actually think this couple is pretty cute, but there's not as much evidence backing it up as there is for 1/3. Hm. I imagine that whether they're friends or more than that, they'll have a sturdy relationship. Why? I have no idea. My notions just come out of nowhere, it seems. Canonically, though, I think that 4 and 5 are just friends. Oh well, that's what fanon is for. 1/3-4/5Somehow, if I add 1/3 and 4/5 together, the sum is less than the parts. It's like if I add 2 + Lizzie. I like 2. I like Lizzie. But 2/Lizzie is only so-so. And if I take 1/5 + 3/4 + 2/Lizzie, 2/Lizzie becomes icky to me. The same thing is happening here. Most of the 1/3 fans that I've seen like 4/5. Most of the 4/5 fans that I've seen like 1/3. IS IT A CRIME TO LIKE 1/3 AND 2/5? 1/3 AND 2/4? 1/3 AND 2/362 AND 4/LENNY AND 5/STICKYBEARD? Okay, I was just kidding on the last one, but really... I think that if you really want to like something that not a lot of other people like, I don't think that the 1345 approach is the right one because it just seems so... um... I'm trying to find a good word. So typical, maybe? Or so expected? By the way, have you seen this site? www.freewebs.com/oneandthree/index.htmThe owner is actually a 1/3, 2/5 fan. |
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). Although I don't really like it, I wouldn't say it's impossible, because I don't think it is. Even though their personalities are really different, I think they could work as a couple.