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Post by loki on Feb 17, 2007 14:34:40 GMT
There was implied several times the tie between Numbuh 2's dad and Father. In C.A.K.E.D. - F.O.U.R. somwthing like that was mentioned, but i cannot find it to make sure. Does anyone have info on this?
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Feb 17, 2007 14:40:43 GMT
We still haven't seen Numbuh 2's dad, but he's definitely not Father. That theory was floating around here for a while, but ZERO disproved it.
Father is actually Ben Uno, Numbuh 1's uncle, and Monty Uno's brother, as was discovered in ZERO.
Hoagie's dad had to have known Ben and Monty when they were kids. He and Father definitely knew each other, from the scene in CAKED-FOUR. No one knows yet what kind of relationship he and Monty had--whether he was in Monty's sector, etc.
Whether all this is explored in the future remains to be seen.
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Post by loki on Feb 17, 2007 14:53:53 GMT
Wasn't Father Mr. Wigglestien, when the secret history was explained?
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Post by hoagiegal1970 on Feb 17, 2007 15:00:06 GMT
Nope. That turned out to be a story that Nigel made up.
You haven't seen ZERO, I take it? That would answer a lot of your questions.
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Post by theorygirl on Feb 17, 2007 15:23:24 GMT
Not to mention that fact that Mr. Warburton himself said that Father isn't Hoagie's dad (it's in one of the Q&As, but I'm not sure which).
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Post by faircod1965 on Feb 17, 2007 15:43:02 GMT
Absolutely, hopefully one day they'll reveal what happened to Hoagie's dad.
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Post by sjedmondson on Feb 17, 2007 15:47:12 GMT
Not to mention the reprecussions on the show! Numbah 1 and 2 would be cousins and all.. 0_o
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Post by lillyfan123 on Feb 17, 2007 15:56:56 GMT
LOLz! That would be super funny if they were. (but they aren't) but still. XD
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Post by italianator on Feb 17, 2007 16:18:13 GMT
I think that Monty, Ben and numbuh 2's dad were in the same sector when they were operatives in the KND, and you?
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Post by sjedmondson on Feb 17, 2007 16:26:37 GMT
I agree with you, 'Cept I think Ben wasn't allowed in the KND (remember his cowardness in Z.E.R.O).
Probably made him bitter towards the KND.
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Post by theorygirl on Feb 17, 2007 19:47:18 GMT
I don't think it's that he wasn't allowed (in fact, my theory is that Monty never stopped trying to convince Ben to join for the entire time he was an operative), but that he didn't want to join. Why exactly, I don't really know. I mean, at first it was because he feared his father's wrath, but once Pappy was defeated (I'm assuming that without his powers, he became just a normal dad), then he didn't have any reason not to join.
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Post by shimaiandinfinity on Feb 18, 2007 0:39:16 GMT
If that would be the case hoagie and nigel would be related....
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Post by digigirl02 on Feb 18, 2007 3:47:18 GMT
I agree with you, 'Cept I think Ben wasn't allowed in the KND (remember his cowardness in Z.E.R.O). Probably made him bitter towards the KND. I could see that happening.
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Post by thesuki on Feb 19, 2007 0:23:24 GMT
I doubt Ben would have joined the KND. He was still afraid of Grandfather. Too afraid to go against him. He never got over that fear.
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Post by SAVE_US.WBTC on Feb 21, 2007 10:57:16 GMT
Ben was just too much of a coward. He never would've had the cajones to join the KND and stand up to Father and other villains.
As to the Mr. Wigglestein theory, I can keep it alive. Maybe Father was a descendant of the original Mr. Wigglestein. The powers and the black silhouette get passed on to each new generation when he reaches adulthood. Grandfather probably wanted to pass it to Monty originally (he was the favorite), but when he turned good and joined the KND, he had no choice but to pass it on to Ben.
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