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Post by pentical on Dec 13, 2003 2:11:12 GMT
Although not the offical season 2 finale, this episode did a great job as a surrogate season closer. Loose ends got tied and there was enough drama and action to satisfy all.
Caked- two: Was Way more fleshed out then I was expecting and the inclution of Lizzie was a nice surprise.
I guess things came full circle for Lizzie's character too. I understand her alot better now then I did last season. She's no longer a negitive character in my eyes. She's brought herself around and gave us a reason to think she and Nigel should be together.
and I liked how they made fun of the fact that she kind of looks like that one Delightful girl with the glasses.
Space:
LOVED IT!
I knew Cree was going to be in this one just because It took place near moon base and involved the idea of sisters.
As always Cree rocked, and we learned more about her and Abby.
Mushi is SO cute! She'd played well into the episode. Being alot like Kuki but different enough to be an individual. Espeacily the end when she hinted to Abby that she's craftier then she looks. Looks like Mushi may be KND material in the future.
I still can't wait for what's left of season 2 and all of season 3.
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Post by 343kndfan on Dec 13, 2003 2:21:33 GMT
Oops sorry I guess me and Pentical made the same topic, well no worries I deleted mine and pasted it over here to this one.
CAKED-TWO: This episode was pretty funny, I loved how Lizzie appeared again and the end was soo sweet I am glad they gave us a better view of her because now she doesn't seem that bad.
SPACE: This episode gives you alot of information, as in Kuki has a sister named Mushi and she looks like a younger version of Kuki cept Mushi had a lavender long sleeve shirt and her hair in lil pigtails (she was sooo cute). Also we get to see what happened after Cree was sent away in KISS and that she used to be a KND Operative Numbuh 11.
Both episode were a surprise to me, because I never would have thought Cree or Lizzie would come back in either one of these, and if you was going to put them in an episode this was a pretty good pick.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Dec 13, 2003 12:56:01 GMT
That scene with Cree and Abby... granted, I KNEW Abby was gonna trash her, because it's becoming almost
cliche in this show to make fun of kids show morality, but still, when Abby did it, I had flashbacks to Mega Man.
Personally, I suspect that Cree is going to turn good. Every time works of fiction do the "Evil sister/brother/father/second mother's other cousin/poodle eating noodles" plotline, the evil family member ALWAYS goes good. Even Darth Vader came through at the last moment for his son, and he was the epitome of evil. But I'm sure that Tom and Mo will think of some brilliantly clever way of doing it (that is, one that doesn't involve Cree strangling Father and throwing him into the depths of the newly rebuilt Death Star).
I hope I'm right. Otherwise, Abby was acting entirely out of character during the entire confrontation between her and Cree.
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Post by grandslamredsox on Dec 13, 2003 16:21:04 GMT
both episodes were GREAT!
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Post by RisanF on Dec 13, 2003 17:05:21 GMT
That scene with Cree and Abby... granted, I KNEW Abby was gonna trash her, because it's becoming almost cliche in this show to make fun of kids show morality, but still, when Abby did it, I had flashbacks to Mega Man. Personally, I suspect that Cree is going to turn good. Every time works of fiction do the "Evil sister/brother/father/second mother's other cousin/poodle eating noodles" plotline, the evil family member ALWAYS goes good. Even Darth Vader came through at the last moment for his son, and he was the epitome of evil. But I'm sure that Tom and Mo will think of some brilliantly clever way of doing it (that is, one that doesn't involve Cree strangling Father and throwing him into the depths of the newly rebuilt Death Star). I hope I'm right. Otherwise, Abby was acting entirely out of character during the entire confrontation between her and Cree. Personally, I feel disappointed in the shallowness of the final scene with Abby and Cree. Though morality can be seen as corny, it's a nessesary ingredient even in adult show. (ex: Rurouni Kenshin; just about every episode ends like a fuedal version of Doug.) Plus, it kinda destroys Mooshie's image as a relentlessly cute tot with having her spout off witty, but heartless remarks. (I'd really like her character otherwise) It's a bit odd too, as Mooshie basicly adheres to the syrupy-sweet talk she lampooned in her relationship with Kuki. JessNumbuh20's going to have a fit about that scene, isn't she? |
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Post by RisanF on Dec 13, 2003 17:56:34 GMT
On C.A.K.E.D.-T.W.O.: I must admit, I'm always excited to see Lizzie pop up again, who may be my favorite non-KND character. This episode validates this feeling, and much more. Lizzie has made a Narnia-like turnaround to heroine status, enough to really convert me into a Nigel/Lizzie fan. Of course, this is also a complete rout for 1/5 fans, but our little red-haired friend truly deserves her Nigey now.
Other highlights:
1. Return of the laconic, deadpan birthday song.
2. Numbuh 1's hero role. Darting around from ship to ship, in midair, using only bubblegum wads and strings, quite a lot of work for a 10 year old to do, even a KND member.
3. Lizzie as the short, brown-haired Delightful Girl. Watching the episode, you really get the feel that she was chosen randomly as a suitable double. It brings you from the action-based happenings of C.A.K.E.D.-T.W.O. and back into Lizzie-zone again.
4. Numbuh 3's "hi' to Lizzie. This, and her mention of the braided girl at the DCFDTL birthday bash, seem to point out to a cute fondness for her. The funny thing is, I had made a fanfic idea prior to this episode where Lizzie attempted to join the KND and became good friends with Kuki. After seeing their interactions here, it feels a bit like my ideas have somehow already happened.
5.: Numbuh 1's expression as he fills the DCFDTL in on the arrival of his "craaazy girlfriend."
And finally 6.: The ending. I am a complete sucker for romantic stuff, and this totally sells both Lizzie and the N/L relationship.
The funny thing is, this is the fourth episode Lizzie's appeared in, when she started out as only a one-timer. I wonder if she has a cult following somewhere within Waburton's ranks...
Mr. Waburton: "Okay, the Cheese Ninja episode went over pretty well, but I think it's time to bring in one of the guest stars again. Which one of the characters should..."
Writer's 1, 2, and 3: "Lizzie! Lizzie! LIZZIE!"
Waburton: "Oh geez, not again! I mean, she's been in three episodes already!"
Writer's 4, 5, and 6: (with stupid, lightbulb studded helmets on) "Ac-tu-ally, I-think-Lizzzz-ie would-be-gooood- too."
Waburton: "Sigh...Lizzie it is then."
Writer's 1, 2, and 3: (waving "L" flags in the air) "YAAAYYY!"
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Post by NumbuhInfinity on Dec 13, 2003 19:32:05 GMT
CAKED TWO: Funny, especially how they made fun of how Lizzie looks a bit like that glasses girl Delightful. Nigel and Lizzie sure seem to be on-and-off with their "special relationship or something" (see DATE), but at least in this ep she redeems herself even better, even nearly getting herself hurt to do so.
Overall, a neato episode.
SPACE: Even better. Mushi is a sugary-sweet cutie, and Cree returns and we get to see what she and Father had planned (or at least part of it, there could be more to it than destroying the Moon Base...). Not only that, she used to be a Kid Next Door, Numbuh Eleven! Yeehaw, that gives me plenty of ammo to use her in my future fics! And finally we got ourselves a REAL Abby and Cree fight, instead of the one-hit-knocks-out-Abby thing like last time.
A great episode indeed.
It did seem a bit weird to see a hyper, super-cute 'n' sweet Mushi suddenly sprout out that little remark/trick near the end, but I guess it's ta keep her from being too much like her big sister Kuki. Maybe you'll luck out and it's a rare occurence for her (just like it's a rare occurence for Kuki to get super P.O.'d).
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Dec 13, 2003 19:35:50 GMT
SPACE: Even better. Mushi is a sugary-sweet cutie, and Cree returns and we get to see what she and Father had planned (or at least part of it, there could be more to it than destroying the Moon Base...). Honestly, I can't see the KND organization falling apart just because Moonbase gets destroyed... actually, I could almost see them supporting Cree, just as long as it means the End of 86. |
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Post by pentical on Dec 14, 2003 0:34:33 GMT
I have a feeling destroying moonbase is only one part of the plan Cree and father made. Cree knows better then to give away the whole plan to Abby.
The final plan will most likly be revealed in END. I wouldn't be surprised if Cree is behind Nigel's being wrongly accused of being 13. Her motives on the other hand are clearer now. She's bitter against the KND, most likly for kicking her out and replacing her. (Evil decomissioning squad!) and is channeling her anger to everything assosiated with the KND, like Abby.
Hopefully she and Abby will get along again, although I think the events in END will play big to wiether or not they will. After last night we see that the potential is there.
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Post by jessnumbuh20 on Dec 14, 2003 3:16:41 GMT
Caked Two is one of my favorite episodes without a doubt. I was the very first Nigel/Lizzie fan! AND IM PROUD OF IT! I knew Lizzie was good and I got a wonderful sense in this episode that shes becomming more accepted to the team and to Nigel. Think about it. He hugged her in a stadium full of people. I do agree that shes become much more heroin and Im very happy with the way they shaped her personalty. It was also a reliefe to see Nigel hurt when she betrayed him for the fact, it was really kind of un clear at how much Nigel did like her- but now its apparent that the feelings are nothing short of mutual!
Space - Probably the only episode that I truly hate. Mushi was annoying to no end. And Abby really made me mad when she trashed Cree. I dont even think I'll bother with screen grabs for this one. I dont want to watch it again. SO dont ask for Mushi grabs. Im not wasteing my time.
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Post by numbuh77 on Dec 14, 2003 4:34:48 GMT
Space - Probably the only episode that I truly hate. Mushi was annoying to no end. And Abby really made me mad when she trashed Cree. I dont even think I'll bother with screen grabs for this one. I dont want to watch it again. SO dont ask for Mushi grabs. Im not wasteing my time. Hey! Space is my favorite episode!!! Where am I going to get pictures of Mushi now? I understand if you don't like the Abby vs. Cree part, but Mushi is the best character they have ever shown! |
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Dec 14, 2003 4:45:39 GMT
Space - Probably the only episode that I truly hate. Mushi was annoying to no end. And Abby really made me mad when she trashed Cree. I dont even think I'll bother with screen grabs for this one. I dont want to watch it again. SO dont ask for Mushi grabs. Im not wasteing my time. Awwww. There goes my Shrine to Mushi. Guess I'm gonna have to do a Shrine to Mokuba instead... |
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Post by numbuh77 on Dec 14, 2003 6:00:36 GMT
Awwww. There goes my Shrine to Mushi. Guess I'm gonna have to do a Shrine to Mokuba instead... Do ya think we can convince her to make the screengrabs? |
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Dec 14, 2003 6:14:06 GMT
Do ya think we can convince her to make the screengrabs? Not except by some miracle of faith. |
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Post by jessnumbuh20 on Dec 15, 2003 0:02:52 GMT
Awwww. There goes my Shrine to Mushi. Guess I'm gonna have to do a Shrine to Mokuba instead... A Mushi shrine? You jokeing. Ugh. Mushi needs to DIE! |
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