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Post by getmepower on Sept 6, 2005 21:01:29 GMT
I believe Gamecube has failed and it will happen to the Revolution.
I have reasons why Gamecube failed at selling,
1. The size of the CD.
2. Some of the games for the console were not that impressing.
3. Few of the people own Gamecube (Thanks to Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb from G4).
4. The console don't make enough money to be the best-selling console.
If you have opinions why Nintendo has gone down to the hole, feel free to post.
~Nismo
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Post by SAVE_US.WBTC on Sept 6, 2005 23:16:04 GMT
Nintendo's major problem for years was the lack of reverse compatibility. I don't know if this is still the case, but their systems traditionally used cartridges instead of CD's, that later systems couldn't recognize. Tough luck for anyone who wants to do a mere upgrade by just buying a new console.
The video game demographics are changing. Nintendo still tries to cater to the younger audience with cartoonish titles, while Sony and Microsoft are reaching the 18-36 demographic (who are the majority of game players) with more mature titles that generally sell better. Unfortunately, controversy alone often keeps many of these games going.
Finally, many of the game titles themselves are lacking in quality. Zelda games are always good (though some were disappointed in the cel shading techniques of Wind Waker), but Mario has way lower standards today. The Mario Kart games are still fun, but neither it, nor all the other ones come anywhere close to the original SMB trilogy that I grew up with.
Nintendo has basically become the Disney of video games: after years of classic products and being the best game in town, it now gets by on reputation alone and the marketing of classic characters in less-than-classic new titles. Still, it remains the trusty choice for parents to look for for family friendly entertainment for their kids.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Sept 7, 2005 3:31:15 GMT
First off, Nismo, some problems: 3. Few of the people own Gamecube (Thanks to Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb from G4). This would be a consequence of it not selling, not a causeAgain, you've got your logic in reverse. The above would be an OUTCOME of a lack of sales, and NOT something that LED TO a lack of sales. Nintendo's major problem for years was the lack of reverse compatibility. I don't know if this is still the case, but their systems traditionally used cartridges instead of CD's, that later systems couldn't recognize. Tough luck for anyone who wants to do a mere upgrade by just buying a new console. Ummm, MOST systems were like this. Sega Genesis? Couldn't play Master System games, not without an adapter. Sega Saturn? Couldn't play Genesis or Sega CD games. Atari Jaguar? Couldn't play Atari 2600 games. PC-FX? Couldn't play PC-Engine games. In fact, for awhile, about the only really backwards-compatible systems were various types of PCs and the various iterations of the Gameboy. For the most part, I agree with what you said (including the parts I had to snip for space). I still respect Nintendo on one ground--they're one of the few companies out there that puts making GAMES ahead of lame gimmicks such as "good storylines." Unfortunately I think this is also one of the things that led to their downfall. People today don't want quality games, they want a game where they get to kill three enemies then watch a movie for thirty minutes. |
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Post by phantasma on Sept 7, 2005 3:35:08 GMT
The reason Gamecube doesn't sell very much, is that they're up against ps2 and xbox and that stuff.
Most people think that Nintendo games are little kid games... While PS2 has better graphics, and teens want graphics and more violence more then sailing in a boat...
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Post by SAVE_US.WBTC on Sept 7, 2005 4:17:53 GMT
And Sega and Atari are no longer competitors (or if they are, not serious ones) in the console wars. Coincidence?
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Post by Shwoo on Sept 7, 2005 4:55:46 GMT
Yes. I think so, anyway.
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Post by knd1 on Sept 15, 2005 4:03:02 GMT
Nintendo's not going down the hole. They may lack some capabilities that the Xbox and PS2 have but that doesn't mean it sucks. Nintendo is all about the innovation. And BTW if the Gamecube had bad games the system would be long gone. Hmm... I'll mention a few great games Resident Evil 4, Warioware Inc. Mega Party Games, Mario Kart Double Dash and Super Smash Bros. Melee
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Sept 15, 2005 4:53:53 GMT
You know, the whole idea that the Gamecube somehow "failed" is rediculous. So far, the Gamecube has lasted JUST AS LONG as the PS2 and X-Box, and stores like Wal-Mart dedicate the same amount of shelf-space to the Gamecube as they do to the other systems, something they would NOT do if the system was failing.
People made the same quack claims about the Nintendo 64, saying it had bombed because of the cartridge format (which was also not true, as anyone with half a brain and a keen eye for detail could pinpoint).
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Post by dragonman on Sept 16, 2005 1:48:16 GMT
i like mario kart.....
Nintendo Gamecube never failed selling, but everyone is really weird these days and likes to see lots of naked girls and boys(which is gross IMHO) and lots of blood and lots of people with giant swords and guns shooting people's heads off (also gross IMHO). Let's face it, Gamecube is just as good, but it doesn't have those sickening graphics that make you wanna hurl when you play the games (like when you split someone's head open........ewwwwww, sickening.......) But PS2 does have more games rated M, atleast i think so, and Gamecube has more rated T games............I like the gamecube better because it is lots more durable than a PS2.(I.E., i hit my friend with my gamecube because he was doing bad things and it didn't break, and i bet if you tried that with a PS2 or an XBox, they would suffer some damage) I also like the controler shape, the XBox hax too many different buttons and the PS2 controller is old. The Gamecube controler only has a few buttons and a D-Pad. Now, let's compare it to the XBox, some of the Xbox games are not really that great (okay, i think most aren't, they are way too bloody and violent) and Gamecubes have much simpler combos in games. Take lord of the Rings: The return of The King, i can do a nice combo by pressing B and then R, and i bet on an Xbox it would be XYBR in rapid succesion or you'll just block, push, hit once, and then hit the ground without doing much. Also, the Gamecube is much more easy to carry. It has a handle on the back. It also hooks up to the GBA so you can play games like that. It also has Animal Crossing, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. 'Nuff said.
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Post by numbuheightbitstar on Sept 16, 2005 3:38:16 GMT
i like mario kart..... Nintendo Gamecube never failed selling, but everyone is really weird these days and likes to see lots of naked girls and boys(which is gross IMHO) and lots of blood and lots of people with giant swords and guns shooting people's heads off (also gross IMHO). Let's face it, Gamecube is just as good, but it doesn't have those sickening graphics that make you wanna hurl when you play the games (like when you split someone's head open........ewwwwww, sickening.......) But PS2 does have more games rated M, atleast i think so, and Gamecube has more rated T games............I like the gamecube better because it is lots more durable than a PS2.(I.E., i hit my friend with my gamecube because he was doing bad things and it didn't break, and i bet if you tried that with a PS2 or an XBox, they would suffer some damage) I also like the controler shape, the XBox hax too many different buttons and the PS2 controller is old. The Gamecube controler only has a few buttons and a D-Pad. Now, let's compare it to the XBox, some of the Xbox games are not really that great (okay, i think most aren't, they are way too bloody and violent) and Gamecubes have much simpler combos in games. Take lord of the Rings: The return of The King, i can do a nice combo by pressing B and then R, and i bet on an Xbox it would be XYBR in rapid succesion or you'll just block, push, hit once, and then hit the ground without doing much. Also, the Gamecube is much more easy to carry. It has a handle on the back. It also hooks up to the GBA so you can play games like that. It also has Animal Crossing, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. 'Nuff said. I'm not sure I completely understand your viewpoint here. What do you mean about the PS2's controller being "old?" I do agree that the industry tries too hard to cash in on violence nowadays (that's why I thoroughly detest the recent string of games that glorify crime), but you seem to have an idea that being gory and violent is automatically bad, which is a view I personally don't agree with... I mean, I love Resident Evil and Half-Life (not that Half-Life is really all that violent, but it does have blood and corpses here and there), not because they're violent but because they're just plain fun. And actually, the Gamecube DOES have quite a few violent games, including a few Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat titles, not to mention both the Bloodrayne games. |
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Post by Shwoo on Sept 17, 2005 12:54:49 GMT
Because non-gamers (most of earth's population) tend to buy repetitive sports games and short, god-awful movie games, which the Gamecube lacks. Ninty have some self esteem left in them. They COULD strike gold and start doing games of Mario shooting goombas with gory results and boning peach, they COULD do Zelda yaoi games, but they don't. They choose QUALITY. If they did that, their loyal fans would probably impale the game designers with rusty sporks and throw their remains to the Chain Chomps. And possibly Wolfos. So they'd probably lose buyers, as well as be dead. I know you were exaggerating. I agree with you, although I thought Wind Waker was pretty easy. |
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Post by iguana on Sept 17, 2005 13:20:13 GMT
Because non-gamers (most of earth's population) tend to buy repetitive sports games and short, god-awful movie games, which the Gamecube lacks. Ninty have some self esteem left in them. They COULD strike gold and start doing games of Mario shooting goombas with gory results and boning peach, they COULD do Zelda yaoi games, but they don't. They choose QUALITY. If they did that, their loyal fans would probably impale the game designers with rusty sporks and throw their remains to the Chain Chomps. And possibly Wolfos. So they'd probably lose buyers, as well as be dead.. Thousands of Zelda/Mario pr0n fanartists state otherwise. I know you were exaggerating. Uhh... my whole post was meant to be sarcastic. |
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Post by bootcamper on Sept 18, 2005 2:28:32 GMT
I t is neither failed of selling or good at selling. The reason is because people love gamecube for their games yet hate them for their lack of production of games.
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Post by k34 on Sept 18, 2005 2:29:09 GMT
Lack of production?
since when?
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Post by delightfulologist on Sept 18, 2005 2:30:38 GMT
I agree. I haven't seen anything about GameCube being less sold than everything else.
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