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Post by soren910 on Jun 30, 2005 2:47:36 GMT
I was showing you how rediculous the argument was. No offense, but IT WAS, and I showed you using examples of the same "technique." That is not "me biting your head off." That is "me showing you how to use logic." and here |
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Post by diala on Jun 30, 2005 3:29:56 GMT
You think any comment that doesn't agree with you is offending, don't you?
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Post by soren910 on Jun 30, 2005 3:49:32 GMT
no, but you are chewing my head off about it
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Post by Girl next door on Jun 30, 2005 4:17:58 GMT
We better stop arguing.
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Post by soren910 on Jun 30, 2005 4:18:41 GMT
ya, she are right.
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Post by Nella (Numbuh 310) on Jul 1, 2005 1:10:00 GMT
Leave it to Teh Wise Nella to swoop in an smooth things over. ~_^ I am Teh Wise! My reaction is also Teh Delayed! Okay, at my own risk of being jumped on, I think this is turning into a real argument. I have to say, though, that I don't think Diala's "biting your head off." I think she's making a point, and she's being harsh. I don't blame her - some of the things said against homosexuality were very low and/or (in my humble opinion) ignorant. If this response warrants flames...bring em on. *sigh* |
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Post by regan on Jul 1, 2005 13:43:42 GMT
no, but you are chewing my head off about it You know, in my humble opinion, I think that... I NEVER SAID THAT THE TREE IS WRONG YOU FREAKIN IDIOT! IT IS THE CAUSE THAT MATTERS! ...sounds a heck of a lot more like "chewing someone's head off" than anything Diala's said to you so far. Having a firm, to-the-point opinion (like most of the people in this thread have, really) is not the same as innanely snapping at someone, so I'd preffer it if you stopped accusing her of it. The thread seems to have gotten a bit pointless anyway now that we've all gotten our argumentive tendancies out of our system; by now I doubt there is any hope of swaying each others' arguements. ^^; ~Regan |
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Post by soren910 on Jul 2, 2005 6:30:08 GMT
okay, i calmed down now. Somtimes i just.......get like that........especially when an argument starts by me.........
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Post by elsa on Jul 2, 2005 19:14:31 GMT
I realize I'm a bit late on this discussion, but homosexuality basically exists. And there's nothing you can do about it. Everybody has their own sets of principles and we follow them. Perhaps that's why you find yourself saying things like "it's not normal" and "it's wrong" when addressing issues such as this one. (Think about this one: when you say 'normal', what precisely do you mean?)
Also, homosexuality has been observed in a large range of animals, including human beings. Unless you believe that humans are somehow more superior than animals, you can't argue about that. NO, we aren't dolphins or whatever but we are no better than them either. In fact, it's difficult to compare ourselves to them because we can't put it on a scale. If anybody understands what I'm saying; they swim, we walk.
Of course, I lost track of everything in the middle of the thread and forgot if somebody had said something about the animals... ignore the above paragraph if no one did. xP
Homosexuality is neither a disability nor a talent, right nor is it wrong, it's just.. there. Although it may have some influence in the way we behave, it doesn't make a person who they are. From the definition of the word "homosexuality", what ever we decide homosexuality is and how we respond to it is entirely up to us.
It is generally accepted that sexual orientation is unchangeable. There are people who think otherwise mainly because of religious reasons and how it's sinful, and that counseling can change it (which is ridiculous, because all they can really do is convince bisexuals to stick to one gender).
Though at page 7, my argument/rant is totally useless because everyone's said it already. ^_^;
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Post by pinkdenim on Jul 2, 2005 21:35:10 GMT
As much as I disagree with what some people are saying, I can see where they're coming from.
Homosexuality is quite a sensitive subject that it preferred not to be touched (i don't mind, but there are people who do). That is because it usually ends up... well, like this.
If any of you know me, you'll know that I'm a big fan of slash. And, in all honesty, I think that me being a slash fan can be just as bad as being a homophobe... to an extent. And the reason being that I will occasionally see homosexuality a little differently to heterosexuality. It may be in a positive way, but it's different all the same.
But saying things like "Gay is a disability" and comparing homosexuality to zoophilia is just NOT COOL. Seriously, Makuta. Think before you type. You must have offended many people with your remarks (including me).
As for my sexuality, I'm bisexual.
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Post by getmepower on Jul 3, 2005 7:11:54 GMT
Now this is my late discussion,
Even though I hate slashes on the KND characters that are young and so, only if they get older and such. I was about to write a NC17 fanfiction with 3/5 when they're 18 (Sorry, just excuse myself anyways.) but Selan doesn't want me to write one with just that. She wants me to write it in another rating. In case, for young KND fans...
Then I changed my mind. I'm just beginning to start with a PG13 rating with the story I'm working on.
It's just doesn't matter to me. Homosexuality is the other thing that other people think of themselves. Like Elton John is gay, by the way. I find the homosexuality in shows, books, mangas, comics and animes are good for slash fans, but in real life, it doesn't matter. I also find that homosexuality is not wrong, it's the way of beings/behavior/life.
For Nym, the KND OC, well he's pretty cool for a fruit or a queer like him. I find him quite funny and cute-ish.
As for the fight earlier (I read it.), it would just going to be a "nice" thread that users would ever fight each other so much. *sighs and shakes head*
~Nismo
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Post by heleen on Jul 4, 2005 8:36:55 GMT
I have nothing against homosexuality, and I certainly don't think it's sinful or unnatural.
I've read a really good book. It said the only reason there are less homosexual people than heterosexual, is because they can't have kids. So, people who are heterosexual are just more succesfull, regarding evolution. It DOES NOT mean that gay people are inferior!
Also, why keep it away from children? Most children are a lot smarter than most adults and teenagers think (and sometimes want them to be). You don't have to exaggerate, but I think they have the right to know something like that exists. So, if they turn out to be homosexual, that they don't think they're weird, or that they're the only one who feels like that. Or that they don't discriminate gay people.
I have to say, I have some trouble reading stories with a slash pairing, but in real life, I don't have problems with it, at all.
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Post by kndfreak on Jul 4, 2005 19:33:57 GMT
it really dosn't matter to me i have friends who are ...well gay and they are still the same person ...not different at all exsept that they think different..and i don't get why peaple make such a big deal of it
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Post by soren910 on Jul 6, 2005 22:02:10 GMT
To: Heleentje
Children DO know about subjects such as these. I learned about it when i was about 6, but i think i was too young to know. Adults are concerned about knowing this because it would make children more and more responsiable and pretty soon, if we made children vunerable to these things, they would be qualified for complicated conversations in society and would be able to take part in voting and such, but combined with their ignorance of other factors of these problems, would create stereotypical discussions amongst them.
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