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Post by Girl next door on Jun 28, 2005 3:23:43 GMT
I don't have homosexual friends. One of my favorite composers, Tchaikovsky, is though. I admired him before I knew he was homo, but I don't care since I only listen to the music.
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Post by rotodisc on Jun 28, 2005 3:45:17 GMT
Well, I agree with Delightfulologist. I believe people can love who they want to : D. Though me being a Christian I tend to set limits on myself, but ONLY myself. Now, if someone wants me to read them some scriptures, I'd be more than happy to (I was a bisexual in the past, so I'd know), but only if they WANT to. I mean, I'm not going to tell anyone what to do (not that I like to) nor am I going to insult anyone because of what they are. Insulting someone because of them being gay is just mean and immature, and it only makes them not listen to you more and more. If you don't accept it, then just don't say anything about it. Simple.
Also, you should only be worried about yourself and not about other people.
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Post by tehdaisy on Jun 28, 2005 3:45:41 GMT
Yes.... because Numbuh 4 was so 100% against adults when he saved his father and all of the other people from the bully fights in MATADOR. And Numbuh 2 was definitely 100% adults when he defended his dad to Father in CAKED FOUR. Numbuh 1 didn't seem so 100% against Father when they made a temporary pact in MUNCHIES. Let's not forget Numbuh 2's 100% crush on Cree, who happens to be a teenager.
The point is that nothing is 100%. We all have our exceptions and stipulations.
Studies show that no one is 100% straight. We, as humans, hover in the grey area of sexuality. We are essentially all bisexual, just to different degrees. The world would be a more tolerant, safer place if people stopped thinking in black and white.
Many of you who are posting your opinions here are still quite young and haven't really come into your own as individuals yet. In ten years, when you have experienced life and met more people, you might think very differently.
As for the 'innocent children' remarks, I and most other slashers don't read anything in which the characters are not seventeen and older. The participants are at the age of consent and very willing.
You can call me perverted for enjoying same sex relationships, but there aren't any percent kid by the time we get to them.
Bottom line.... love shouldn't be about gender, race, age, religion, etc. It should be about love. Doesn't everyone deserve the chance to fall in love and spread the rest of their life with that person? I don't understand why some people feel they have the right to say others shouldn't have happiness just because they're different.
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Post by soren910 on Jun 28, 2005 3:48:54 GMT
being catholic, it is in the bible( or so my brother says) that being gay is wrong. Also, if god wanted us to be homosexual, he would just have created one sex, and not two.
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Post by regan on Jun 28, 2005 3:51:42 GMT
For the woman rights and things like that Makuta mentioned, u fight for it cuz u were born to be human so u struggle to be equal to men. For gay, u were not born to be gay n if u have a crush on the opposite sex, u don't struggle to be homo  What ~are~ you talking about? I just read that four times and can't quite understand it... if you are born in a "natural" way, then you will struggle to be it? Eh? Makuta didn't say everyone should follow the standards set by her religion. She said it was wrong itself, and it was only ALSO wrong according to her religion, get it? It was wrong itself. But what is she BASING that decree of wrongness off of? All statements must have some backing or basis behind them. Like you wouldn't say "2 + 2 = 4" if your math teacher hadn't taught you so years ago. The same applies to deep-rooted opinions. Were you BORN with the idea that homosexuality was wrong? Surely not. Your parents or your friends or your religion or the mass media taught you that. When you say that something is wrong because "it just is," you are NOT stating a fact, but an opinion. An opinion that has most likely been put into motion by - in this case- religion. being catholic, it is in the bible( or so my brother says) that being gay is wrong. Also, if god wanted us to be homosexual, he would just have created one sex, and not two. Having two sexes came about as a means of reproduction. There are plenty of asexual organisms on earth, as well as animals that CHANGE their sex in order to mate. Now, of course being heterosexual is needed in order to procreate, so I can completely see the arguement in the importance of that. But there ~are~ singly sexed lifeforms out there. You need to think for yourself, rather than simply saying "Oh, well if God didn't do it, then it's wrong." "If the good lord had meant for us to walk, he'd have given us sneakers..." And Regan? You are my new hero, and I want to marry you. ;D Oh em gee.... but it might offend some people in this thread. ....Let's do it. XP Who wants to be the bride? ~Regan |
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Post by soren910 on Jun 28, 2005 4:01:56 GMT
well, i see your point well, humans are amzing because they only think wrong what they were not taught how to do it that way. Ex: Humans think animals killing each other is wrong, but it really is just the circle of life. It creates 'blance' in nature. So homosexuality is not wrong, but it's not right. It all depends on what you were taught.
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Post by tehdaisy on Jun 28, 2005 4:02:25 GMT
Okay, since people are starting to get back into the whole religious realm, I’d like to share an opinion that my friend’s grandmother shared with me once. She said that homosexuality was a great thing. It was God’s way of handling the population problems we’ve been experiencing. People can still love and be happy, but in a way that doesn’t produce more offspring. In fact, because these couples can’t bear children, it also provides a loving home for orphaned, abandoned, and neglected children, should the pair want kids. Homosexual relationships can still fill a role in God’s plan.
This is her opinion, not mine, but I thought I’d share it, since she is also very religious.
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Post by soren910 on Jun 28, 2005 4:08:16 GMT
religion is a complicated thing. No one will probably ever truly understnad it because there is always at least one of these questions:
(1)Who was the first one here and how were they created?
(2) How do we even know he is real?
(3) are there more than one god?
One big problem in society today is that people think that there religion is right and want to make it the only one. A problem in religion is that if evil were destroyed, balance would also be destroyed because then the good that there once was would no longer be called good since there is no opposite of good anymore. So religion could all be real, or it could all be fake. For all we know, humans lived way before dinosaurs and de-evolved into small organisms for some rewason and then evolved again. It might be this and that we might do this all over again. Religion is very complicated everyone. It is all based on faith and beliefs.
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Post by makuta on Jun 28, 2005 4:08:34 GMT
What's next? Humans and animals? It's not just religion. It's common sense.
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Post by soren910 on Jun 28, 2005 4:10:51 GMT
it's all in society and your beliefs. No one can change your opinion if you truly believe in it.
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Post by aracthedragon on Jun 28, 2005 4:11:38 GMT
being catholic, it is in the bible( or so my brother says) that being gay is wrong. Also, if god wanted us to be homosexual, he would just have created one sex, and not two. I think God, if there is a God, wants us to be both. That's why there are homosexuals and heterosexuals. Oh em gee.... but it might offend some people in this thread. ....Let's do it. XP Who wants to be the bride? ~Regan Oh! I want to be the groom! That way I can dress in drag. ;D Teh Daisy, I think what you said was really impressive, so you're also my hero and I want to marry you, too. Now we can piss off people who think polygamy is wrong! |
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Post by diala on Jun 28, 2005 4:12:37 GMT
being catholic, it is in the bible( or so my brother says) that being gay is wrong. Also, if god wanted us to be homosexual, he would just have created one sex, and not two. If God wanted us to know things such as math and science, He'd already place it in our minds instead of having us learn it ourselves. If God wanted us to be the same, then He would've made us so similar that we couldn't disagree, or at least make us more tolerant of others. If God wanted us to live in houses, He would've made them pop out of the ground by themselves, instead of us having to build them from scratch. If God wanted us to fight diseases, He'd make us immune already instead of having us figure out medicine and biology. If God wanted us all to be fit, then we'd be able to eat whatever we want without any sort of physical decay. You see how ridiculous that argument is? |
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Post by soren910 on Jun 28, 2005 4:16:07 GMT
well....if god gave us free will, it would NOT be HIS way of handling our population, unless all homosexuals had the same religion. So there lies the problem with that. And other religions do not believe in one god, they believe in many. There is another problem with what you said. I have nothing against homosexuality and really didn't understand the poll quyestion, so i don't know if i really answered truly to the poll. And it might be that in some religions it is not wrong to be homosexual. So it all does relly depend on how you were taught about it.
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Post by tehdaisy on Jun 28, 2005 4:16:48 GMT
Teh Daisy, I think what you said was really impressive, so you're also my hero and I want to marry you, too. Now we can piss off people who think polygamy is wrong! Awesome! Sounds like a road trip to Utah is in order. |
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Post by diala on Jun 28, 2005 4:17:07 GMT
What's next? Humans and animals? It's not just religion. It's common sense. ...you're not biased. You're just stupid. An animal has the same capabilities as humans! It has the same emotions, intelligence, and LANGUAGE as us! But of course people are supposed to marry their goat! Because you know a goat has the capability to judge for him/herself and to at least write on a marriage certificate. That comment is so ridiculous that I have no idea why I am even honoring its existance by replying to it. ...oooh! May I join the marriage too? Why settle with a threesome when you can have a FOURSOME instead? |
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