1/362 Courting Commanders thread VIII

[andiefreude]

Edit: Oh sorry..um, this was in response to unfilar's last post. Guess it took me longer than I expected to post. :]

I agree with that, I think Abby's more laid back side would complement Nigel's workaholic tendencies well. We know that Nigel is uber hardcore about the KND, so he would do well with someone who understands that importance. But there have been quite a few episodes like GROW-UP and BUTT where he realises that he needs to take more time to appreciate his friends as well. Besides, they wouldn't be in the KND forever and I could see Abby and Nigel's friendship enduring beyond their childhood.

However, what we glimpsed in IT seems to imply that Nigel has a very strong bond with Rachel as well. We can't really judge just what kind of relationship it is simply because Rachel has had far less air time. But in that one episode there was enough potential to intrigue me. Sadly, I don't really see 1/362 becoming canon, as the show is coming to an end. I know a lot of shippers have their hopes set on INTERVIEWS to make their ship legit but there are plenty of other things that have to be wrapped up in the finale as well. I rather doubt that romance will play such a large part.

I'd be happy to see either 1/362 or 1/5 become canon though.

[Lord Malachite]

It's easy to make a case for either the 1/5 or 1/362 pairing....personally, I expect neither to rear up when all is said and done. While as my good friend Unifilar can attest, I'm rather religious about my 1/362 fandom, I do not discredit the 1/5 angle as a viable possibility either.

I'll even go so far as to introduce a potential pitfall to my own fandom--because Rachel has a responsibility to the KND as a whole, it's entirely possible that she'll end up fighting with Nigel. Because her very position is likely to dictate that there will be things she can't always tell him, or that she will have to issue orders without explaining them. And that certainly would make Nigel uncomfortable, to say the least. He would likely understand her position--but he won't be happy. However, they won't be in the KND, forever. So who knows about later?

[Afalstein]

Boy, I'm surprised at how much has gone on while I've been out...

Nigel maybe does need to relax, but I doubt Abby will teach him. She seems more willing to either make fun of his workaholism, or just force him to relax. (Figure that one out) There are moments when she tells him he needs to think about friends more, but they're done more in a critical then a loving way.

That said, there seems to be a lot of history with the two. The flashback in TREATY, the stuff about him being bald, the history of her hacking into the files to get him to pass the entrance exam... Obviously they've known each other for a long time. And in WHITEHOUSE, it is Abby who helps.

Note, though, that KND tends more toward couple episodes, like IT, CLOWN, or RABBIT, which are less subtle then what a relationship would be here. They could be being sneaky, which would be fun, but I doubt it.

When it comes down to it, though, I have to agree with Lord Malachite. Probably neither will ever really be resolved, just because it's fun to keep it in suspense (Kinda like the Avatar thing with Aang/Katara/Zuko) "Interviews" could just say Nigel has 'a' girlfriend and leave you to agonize over whether it's Abby, Rachel, or even Lizzie. It would immensely cruel and lead to wars throughout fandom for some years, but they could do it.

Oh, and Allie, I am flattered you remember me! Thanks!

[allie]

I have a high doubt that Nigel will in up with Abby in the end, no offence 1/5 fans. Don't kill me because I'm only saying that 'cause I'm a huge 1/362 shipper. I pretty sure he'll end up with Rachel or Lizzie. Even though he is the one not to come back from the last mission.

And no problem! I'm glad you're here! We've sorta... have been losing some 1/362 Courting Commanders for a few months. ^^;;

[lillyfan123]

@...the main discusstion.
Hi everybody! XD I agree with Lord M, too. We'll probably end up left guessing...poo.

@lose of cc's
*sigh* It's true. There's hardly any that come to this thread anymore...

[allie]

@main
Lol, or it could be Next Gene, seeing what the kids look like. ;D

@lose of CCs
*sniff* This thread is like a graveyard...

[unifilar]

However, they won't be in the KND, forever. So who knows about later?

^^ I agree whole-heartedly with Lord Malachite. There are possible conflicts in 1/362, as there are in 1/5, so they're really both in the same boat. The ships are more alike than some realize, I feel.

Nigel maybe does need to relax, but I doubt Abby will teach him. She seems more willing to either make fun of his workaholism, or just force him to relax. (Figure that one out) There are moments when she tells him he needs to think about friends more, but they're done more in a critical then a loving way.

Heh, I'm a fan of the term 'tough love'. ^^ A couple can withstand some teasing, exemplified by 3/4. At the end of the day, Abby still respects and cares for Nigel, vice versa. And, referencing TREATY, Nigel IS learning to relax. Perhaps not from Abby herself, but from his friends as a group. They all (including Abby) wanted Nigel to come get ice cream and basically relax with them, and in the end, he did.

Note, though, that KND tends more toward couple episodes, like IT, CLOWN, or RABBIT, which are less subtle then what a relationship would be here. They could be being sneaky, which would be fun, but I doubt it.

...well, wait. Are you saying that because there are episodes like IT, CLOWN, and RABBIT, it means that 1/362 and 2/5 are canon, or at least more viable than 1/5? Because I disagree. 4/5 have had their 'couple' episode, as have 2/3 (basically). So just because two operatives have an episode together doesn't mean they're any more canon or viable than another pairing.

Even though he is the one not to come back from the last mission.

Hm, I've been hearing people talk about this, and I'm curious as to where this information is coming from. Do you know?

And, to be honest, I fairly sure no couple with by canon at the end. Not 1/362, not 1/Lizze, not even 1/5.

[allie]

unifilar said:

However, they won't be in the KND, forever. So who knows about later?

Even though he is the one not to come back from the last mission.

Hm, I've been hearing people talk about this, and I'm curious as to where this information is coming from. Do you know?

TV Guide, from what I've heard.

[lillyfan123]

Well, it's possible, but tv guide isn't always right. TV guid also said that there would be 1/362 romance in Op.Interviews....

[unifilar]

TV Guide, from what I've heard.

Hm, this is curious. Where did you hear that it was from TV guide? And I'd rather wish I could see this TV guide article.

[Lord Malachite]

I can't believe I'm saying this, and some people might be mad at me...but I actually hope that there isn't any 1/362 romantic interaction in INTERVIEWS.

I know, I know, blasphemy! And it pains me to type it, because I adore this pairing so much. But I have a reason. And it's not because I don't want the show to have a 1/362 pairing. In all honesty, it's because I don't feel that Rachel should appear in INTERVIEWS. And that's coming from a complete and total 362 fanboy.

Why do I not want her to be in the episode? Because this is the end of the series, and in all honesty, I believe that the final episode should focus on Sector V and not the other characters. After all, the show started with Sector V, it should end with them. There's also the case that it could hurt the fandom. Sure, all of us Courting Commanders would cheer....but a lot of other KND pairing fandoms would have their dreams dashed in an instant. That's the magic of a fandom centered around a pairing like this. All of us here love 1/362, and we are built around the notion that this pairing could happen. If it becomes real, we can declare victory--but our fandom will also instantly change. We wouldn't be just an idea anymore, we'd be a reality. And what about everyone else? The whole idea of these fandoms is that, hey, it could happen. That would be taken away from fandoms like 1/5 in the blink of an eye. Nope, Nigel's with Rachel now, so your pairing won't happen. To say nothing of 1/3, 1/Lizzie, and all the others.

I don't know, maybe I'm just being crazy. But I've said what I've said. Flame away.

[lillyfan123]

I agree. (is shot)

I think that it would in fact be best if the last episode did focous more of sector V, rather then any parings at all. Though I doubt it will, being what with the splinter cell, and Nigel being the 'chosen' and such, it would be refreashing for something like that to happen.

I'd never flame you anyway, but that's beside the point...

[allie]

unifilar
I read it on the 3/4 forum, 'holy conili' said she read it, the big '60 things in the Fall' or something. *shrugs*

@lord M and Lillyfan
Whoa, he may be right. XD This should focus on Sector V, just like it in season 1, no moonbase operatives, no supreme leader, no Numbuh 86. *except Chad but he was only in one episode in the first season so yeah) I agree. It should just more focus on Sector V. ^^

[Afalstein]

Heh, I'm a fan of the term 'tough love'. ^^ A couple can withstand some teasing, exemplified by 3/4. At the end of the day, Abby still respects and cares for Nigel, vice versa. And, referencing TREATY, Nigel IS learning to relax. Perhaps not from Abby herself, but from his friends as a group. They all (including Abby) wanted Nigel to come get ice cream and basically relax with them, and in the end, he did.

I think it was pizza. The ice cream was gone.

Hmmm... this is true. Tough love is rather important, especially for someone like Nigel, who has some issues anyway. He could stand to change. But I don't always get the impression that's Abby's goal. It usually seems more like a common sense observation with her rather than a more particular sensitivity. Obviously that's a mere perspective and I have NOTHING to back it up.

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Note, though, that KND tends more toward couple episodes, like IT, CLOWN, or RABBIT, which are less subtle then what a relationship would be here. They could be being sneaky, which would be fun, but I doubt it.

...well, wait. Are you saying that because there are episodes like IT, CLOWN, and RABBIT, it means that 1/362 and 2/5 are canon, or at least more viable than 1/5? Because I disagree. 4/5 have had their 'couple' episode, as have 2/3 (basically). So just because two operatives have an episode together doesn't mean they're any more canon or viable than another pairing

This is a very good point. There have been a number of episodes where non-coupled characters have gone together. People have made ships out of 4/5 and 2/3, of course, but that's beside the point here.

Hum. I could say that there are episodes like DATE that seem to suggest a certain pattern in the team, but that was one with Lizzie, who obviously no longer plays the role she used to. I guess I was just saying it seemed more in the tendency of Warburton and Co. to be more overt about pairings then have just little hints throughout the series.

@loss of CC's: I don't know. You guys have posted two pages in one day. That's not too shabby.

@interviews: I would say it very possible, given what they said about the Splinter Cell at the end of TREATY. And while it would be fun if the finale only had Sector V, how would they spend 60 minutes just on them?

Well... Maybe they could do it.

[thesuki]

Just a shot in the dark, but would anyone here have a screenshot of Rachel from Op ZERO with that Yield sign bo staff thingum?