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Post by Nella (Numbuh 310) on Jun 16, 2006 22:34:54 GMT
I just want Lizzie to date any one but Number 1. I feel he deserves better than pushy Izzie, she treats him horrible, if she treated him better I'd consider there relationship. But right now I just want her out of Number one's life. Pffft, what? She's ten years old! Every ten year old I know is a bit pushy and self-centered on some level. And Nigel's a right ass right back at her. Remember DATE? But they obviously really like each other. So why do you want them apart? If you are such a Nigel fan, you should want him to be happy...and right now, he's happy with Lizzie. |
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Post by unifilar on Jun 17, 2006 16:28:36 GMT
I like Nigel, and I want him to be the best character he can be. And you just said that he's 'a right ass back at Lizzie'. Why would I want my favorite character to be an ass?
I just don't like the kind of people Nigel and Lizzie are around each other. I find I like them best when they're apart.
And you wouldn't know Nigel is happy with Lizzie by the way he acts. Half of the time he's with her he's got this disgruntled look on his face.
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Post by Nella (Numbuh 310) on Jun 17, 2006 19:07:01 GMT
I like Nigel, and I want him to be the best character he can be. And you just said that he's 'a right ass back at Lizzie'. Why would I want my favorite character to be an ass? Nigel has an inconsiderate, work-obsessed side to his personality. That's just who he is. It's just that people always say the Lizzie is pushy, demanding, and horrible. I like to point out that Nigel can be not-so-nice, too. Nigel looks disgruntled whether he's with her or not. XD |
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Post by unifilar on Jun 17, 2006 20:42:36 GMT
Just because they both share negative sides to their personalities doesn't make the relationship easier for one to accept. Besides- their negative qualities differ. Nigel can be selfish, but he wouldn't make someone wear a 'girlfriend helmet' just to make them like him.
One could argue that Lizzie's negative qualities are 'worse' than Nigel's.
XD That's true, but he looks it moreso when he's with her. He seems to be more irritable.
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Post by regan on Jun 17, 2006 22:07:46 GMT
One could argue that Lizzie's negative qualities are 'worse' than Nigel's. Even if this were true, it's not exactly grounds to prove that Nigel/Lizzie is a bad match. If you compare two people, one of them will ALWAYS come out with more negative qualities. It doesn't matter one iota if both partners are obnoxious, one is, or neither. Two people could treat each other with the utmost respect and kindness, yet that doesn't mean that they should by default go on a date. Who makes the "best guy for Lizzie" (or rather from your point of view, Nigel) depends on who has the best chemistry. Nigel has several relationships with girls, but only one of them would I categorize as really "romantic." Sure, he may get along more with Abby, but to me this is clearly platonic: their interractions center around their status of near-equals in their work and play. While his relationship with Lizzie is one fueled by jeallousy, mush, and posession... even though one would assume that he were "treated" better by Abby, he obviously enjoys the romantic aspect of his and Lizzie's time together, and has thus made a choice to date her. Perhaps this sort of relationship just works best for him. After all, not everyone in the world ends up with the sweetest, most caring partner in the world. Everyone has their negative sides. ~Regan |
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Post by Numbuh Googol on Jun 18, 2006 11:03:45 GMT
Well I think 1/Lizzie is okay. It's not something I'm particularly into, and there are other couples involving Numbuh 1 that I prefer, but 1/Lizzie is entertaining in my opinion. You're quite right, Regan, everyone does have negative sides.
However, I vote for Lizzie/65.3, because this is something I know I like. I thought their interaction was cute in LEADER, although I'm fully aware that Lizzie was flirting with him just to get the mission info from him. But he seemed to like her, and it might be cool if there's a 1/Lizzie/65.3 moment in the show one day. I think Lizzie/65.3 would be funny as a couple - Lizzie is funny when she gets all flirty and obsessive, while Numbuh 65.3 is funny when he gets all shy and soppy! (like in LEADER)
There's not much of it in the show, but it's just something I like!
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Post by Celra on Jun 19, 2006 0:25:57 GMT
I Always wondered how Nigel and Lizzie Met......I always thought he dated her out of the sympathy of her stalking him,I mean come on you seen her room briefly in D.A.T.E. the girl has pictures of his shoe.....and him with his hand in front of the camera....
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Post by paradiseraver on Jun 19, 2006 4:59:35 GMT
Shee-yow. Quite the discussion going on around here, eh? 1/Lizzie always seems to be like that... I'll throw in my two cents anyway.
Personally, while I enjoy 1/86 more for reasons even I can't understand, I like 1/Lizzie and feel that their relationship works out fine. So, Lizzie is a bit (okay, kinda a lot) bossy. So, Numbuh 1 is a work-o-holic. All relationships have bumps and problems. Half of it is overcoming those things and seeing the person they really are, the person you love. I feel Numbuh 1 has done a good job of that with Lizzie. Lizzie I'm not as sure about but, come on, she's obviously crazy about Numbuh 1.
So, yeah, the best guy for Lizzie is Nigel, hands down.
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Post by unifilar on Jun 19, 2006 23:40:52 GMT
But sometimes that leads you to wanting love so bad, you fool yourself into thinking the person is really better than they are- and you fall in love with that illusion. That causes nothing but problems. Maybe that's what happened with 1/Lizzie.
I just re-watched LEADER. Lizzie promised Nigel that she wouldn't be the 'leader' again, and then a few moments later she does it. That just doesn't spell love and trust to me.
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Post by GoldenFlither on Jun 25, 2006 23:54:08 GMT
You know, for about a year now, I've always thought the same thing, just seemed to forget to bring it up. You are absolutely right. The first rule about love (if not love, then at least having a girlfriend..) is trust. If you can't trust them, then what happens when they do something even worse when they take advantage of your trust for them? I tend to trail with my explanations when I'm in a bored mood. Just don't mind me. |
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Post by unifilar on Jun 26, 2006 0:10:36 GMT
And if memory serves, Lizzie also 'promised' never to use the boyfriend helmet. She could just as easily break that promise.
What bothered me was that she didn't even hesitate to go behind Nigel's back. Not to mention she flirted with another man to get what she wanted, when she had a boyfriend already. That's why I hold a grudge towards Lizzie and their whole relationship.
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Post by GoldenFlither on Jun 27, 2006 14:36:20 GMT
Not to mention she flirted with another man to get what she wanted *laughs* You know that reminds me of this relationship I have with this boy in my school. (Well, now my former school..) The guy has a huge crush on me and so this one day when we were supposed to give like $10 for this school trip that was due, I flirted with him and asked him if he could lend me some money. I got $10! |
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Post by Numbuh Googol on Jun 27, 2006 22:17:33 GMT
Heh heh  I haven't got a very strong opinion about 1/Lizzie. Sometimes I like it and sometimes I don't. There are couples I prefer that interfere with 1/Lizzie, but I'm not going to use that against it. Going purely by what I see in the episodes, sometimes the couple annoys me and sometimes they make me laugh. So my opinion about 1/Lizzie changes a lot! |
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Post by judy on May 9, 2007 15:30:17 GMT
Seriously, Lizzy frightens me. She’s practically pro-adults! In operation R.E.C.E.S.S. she actually agrees that kids should be working rather than playing during breaks, and when she sees the principals at their “We hate kids” conference, she says it looks like a fun party. Also, in C.A.K.E.-T.W.O. she double-crossed Nigel for frosting! Totally-super-yummylicious-frosting, but frosting nonetheless. Yeah, sure there was a lot of emotions between them afterwards, but the point is that unless she’s prompted, she will always put herself first. I don’t think she and Nigel are really in love, (meaning love like children feel, like Numbuh 3 and 4) except in the moments when one of them is seriously threatened. Then they’re shown to really care, but it might also just be that Lizzie wants to keep her boyfriend and Nigel feels obligated to save her, or inspired to act the heroic boyfriend. Besides that I think Lizzie just likes Nigel because he is the leader of sector V, while he…simply can’t escape her. But I’m a little negative towards their relationship since Nigel is my favourite character and I’m a slasher. ^^U Also, we're probably overanalyzing. Lizzie and Nigel are a cute and quirky couple and obviously Mr. Warburton's choice. They've been together for a long time and I don't think they'll break up any time soon (unless the rumours about upcoming episodes are true). I’m surprised Mr. "Fourth Grade President for life" isn’t on the list. He worships her! And they are quite similar in several aspects, like their weapon of choice, and their friendly attitude towards the adults. |
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Post by thesuki on May 9, 2007 15:36:19 GMT
Every hear the term "gravedigging"?
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