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Post by GoldenFlither on Sept 1, 2006 23:42:38 GMT
Even 2/5 verses 1/Lizzie? ;D *wink wink nudge nudge*
Anyways, there's pros and cons for every couple. Though I'm on unifilar's side, no doubt.
Yes, they are currently an official couple.
Yes, Lizzie always apologizes.
Yes, Nigel always forgives her.
Yes, the two have been together for a while so far.
Yes, Operation: POOL, Operation: SNOWING, etc.. have showed good pros to 1/Lizzie.
Yes, Nigel is so far managing to balance both Lizzie's jealousy and the missions.
However..
No, Nigel cannot trust her too much. (Operation: LEADER, Operation: LIZZIE, Operation: CAKED-TWO are examples)
No, Nigel can most likely not balance his friends and Lizzie for the rest of his childhood.
No, Nigel's friends and Lizzie do not get along with each other well.
No, Lizzie does not trust him too much. (Operation: HOLIDAY is an example)
No, the two of them do not have a strong bond through my perspective.
To add, there is a lack of two things:
- Trust
- Balance of similarities/differences
Please keep in mind that this is all through the eyes of GoldenFlither.
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Post by Numbuh 0xFF on Sept 1, 2006 23:49:55 GMT
I second this. You're not giving Lizzie nearly enough credit. Thirded. There's also DATE and HOLIDAY, and bits of RECESS...but really, this is ridiculous. I am fed up with Lizzie bashing, truth be told, and it seems like threads like this always lead up to it. Nigel's "mature enough" to determine whether or not he likes her enough to continue dating her, not to mention he can see her flaws for himself, and it doesn't seem to have changed his mind about her. So, 1/Lizzie, and I wash my hands of this and all "VS" threads. Fourthed. C'mone people. How 'bout some Lizzie love? |
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Post by digigirl02 on Sept 2, 2006 0:17:04 GMT
I'll fifth it. 1/lizzie rocks,(but if she ever did break up with Lizzie, I would say 1/362)
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Post by jeanedwar on Sept 2, 2006 1:08:48 GMT
I like both 1/5 and 1/Lizzie  Both are loved by me xD Ehehe |
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Post by eveluvswally on Sept 2, 2006 1:15:52 GMT
Thirded. There's also DATE and HOLIDAY, and bits of RECESS...but really, this is ridiculous. I am fed up with Lizzie bashing, truth be told, and it seems like threads like this always lead up to it. Nigel's "mature enough" to determine whether or not he likes her enough to continue dating her, not to mention he can see her flaws for himself, and it doesn't seem to have changed his mind about her. So, 1/Lizzie, and I wash my hands of this and all "VS" threads. Fourthed. C'mone people. How 'bout some Lizzie love? Fifthed, while I didn't like lizzie at first, her many escipades made her grow on me, and I started to love her. Edit: ok, someone else already fifthed, sixthed then. |
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Post by MarEla on Sept 2, 2006 1:33:58 GMT
He trusted her to not give in to loving Jimmy.
"she will stay true" or something like that. Nigel said that during his fight with jimmy.
If he could save the world, he can mostly likey do anything. Besides, it's not like he has too attend to his friends 24/7 and Lizzie always there.
But they don't hate, hate her. They can tolerate her. After all, they did try to save her during SNOWING.
She suspect him of cheating on her. You would be suspicious too if your boyfriend was going on vacation with a really pretty girl.
And besides, they are ten! Kids are still kids. You can't possibly have them have a real, adult relationship at their age. There still years to go before they actually become adults. And it's not like they're married or something.
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Post by GoldenFlither on Sept 2, 2006 2:19:23 GMT
He trusted her to not give in to loving Jimmy. She was getting brainwashed by the same helmet that made him attack his friends. How much could he expect? Thats just the thing. Its pretty obvious that Lizzie would like more attention than what he's been giving her lately. Take LUNCH for example, or QUIET, or HOLIDAY, or LEADER.. heck the list goes on. Nigel likes to work, and sure Lizzie wants to take him away from working too much. But she doesn't really do it because she thinks he deserves a break. Well, scratch that. LEADER proved me wrong. But then LUNCH proved me right again. Sorry if that paragraph didn't make any sense. Thats just whats on my scrambled mind right now. But I can say that both Lizzie and Abby seem to think he needs a break. See? So there's a tie between the two.  *wink wink nudge nudge* Good point. But you have to admit they don't like each other. How would you feel if your friends didn't like your boyfriend/girlfriend? To me, thats like saying my parents don't like who I am dating. And then I would feel like crud.  *laughs* Believe me. If I ever had to be suspicious about my boyfriend, I would never have dated him in the first place. I'm very strict about that situation. Keep in mind that, yes they are kids, but this is a cartoon on television. They can act however Mr. Warburton wants them to act. Why else would they have animals talk in Bugs Bunny? |
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Post by Violette on Sept 2, 2006 2:52:31 GMT
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Post by GoldenFlither on Sept 2, 2006 2:54:32 GMT
Man, Abs. You've most definetely done your research. Hm.. I like it. |
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Post by regan on Sept 2, 2006 3:15:51 GMT
No, Nigel cannot trust her too much. (Operation: LEADER, Operation: LIZZIE, Operation: CAKED-TWO are examples) No, Lizzie does not trust him too much. (Operation: HOLIDAY is an example) To add, there is a lack of two things: - Trust Soooo I notice that the 1/5 shippers' prime arguement for 1/5 (as well as against 1/Lizzie apparently) is trust. "Nigel and Abby have trust... thus they have the potential for a romantic relationship. But Nigel and Lizzie don't have trust, and thus cannot have a viable romantic relationship. So the former couple has a stronger chance of being in a "true" relationship." However, I feel that this trust arguement is inherrently flawed. Think of it this way.. according to you guys: 1) A viable, romantic relationship must have trust. Likewise, if one has that trust, you are likely to have a means for a romantic, viable relationship. ((where p = a relationship, and q = trust: p ->q , q->p)) But: 2) Nigel and Lizzie are in a romantic relationship that has lasted for quite a while through many hardships, fights, and misunderstandings, thus making it viable (Note: ~how~ viable it is is certainly up for debate... I'm not saying that they're going to ~stay~ together by any means. But it is a fact that they ~are~ together and ~have~ been for quite a while, and thus do obviously like each other... for how long, who knows, but the fact remains that they are in a viable relationship ~right now~). ((p is true)) 3) So because Nigel and Lizzie are in a viable, romantic relationship, then they must have trust. ((because p is true and p -> q, thus q is true)) Trust arguement.... out the window IMO >XP After all, while Nigel admittedly does have reasons why he shouldn't completely trust Lizzie, he also has reasons as to why he can't completely trust Abby. After all, she abandoned him to the DCFDTL when he lost his hair... where Lizzie - in all five seasons - has never abandoned him once. ETA: I realize that this might be a little convoluted and hard to understand, so I tried to explain the mathmatics behind it a little better over he~ya. ^^ Hopefully that helps. ~Regan |
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Post by Nella (Numbuh 310) on Sept 2, 2006 3:22:57 GMT
Uh, way to make up your own data. Like, where on earth did you get those numbers? And your theories don't really look at the show as a whole...they just reflect your desire for 1/5 to be canon. I consider this to be deeply biased and, therefore, not a viable theory. Yes. Thank you. |
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Post by Violette on Sept 2, 2006 3:34:34 GMT
well, I was traveling over the wolrd asking every kid about KND (XD ya sure)
nah, simply with looking at the webpages, the tons of 2/5 supporters on earth, they're a lot, I've found eighvbtah cauzillion pages of 2/5-3/5, 2/5, etc, of every...let's say...8 pages of 2/5, I found lik 2, 3 webpages of 1/5, besides, knowing that not the whole world has a computer/internet, or something's wrong, let's say that is kinda obvious, the people guides for the ste..stere-stereotype, (I was right ¬¬) that is 1/Lizzie, 3/4 and 2/5 but in fact is 2/cree, 5/maurice, and really, who knows what's going to happen next? but that's the way the people is (and I don't mean anything) but some ones can have the capacity of looking beyond the obvious things...
¿? Ò.Ô
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Post by scone on Sept 2, 2006 3:39:00 GMT
well, I was traveling over the wolrd asking every kid about KND (XD ya sure) nah, simply with looking at the webpages, the tons of 2/5 supporters on earth, they're a lot, I've found eighvbtah cauzillion pages of 2/5-3/5, 2/5, etc, of every...let's say...8 pages of 2/5, I found lik 2, 3 webpages of 1/5, besides, knowing that not the whole world has a computer/internet, or something's wrong, let's say that is kinda obvious, the people guides for the ste..stere-stereotype, (I was right ¬¬) that is 1/Lizzie, 3/4 and 2/5 but in fact is 2/cree, 5/maurice, and really, who knows what's going to happen next? but that's the way the people is (and I don't mean anything) but some ones can have the capacity of looking beyond the obvious things... ¿? Ò.Ô what. |
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Post by regan on Sept 2, 2006 3:39:29 GMT
well, I was traveling over the wolrd asking every kid about KND (XD ya sure) nah, simply with looking at the webpages, the tons of 2/5 supporters on earth, they're a lot, I've found eighvbtah cauzillion pages of 2/5-3/5, 2/5, etc, of every...let's say...8 pages of 2/5, I found lik 2, 3 webpages of 1/5, besides, knowing that not the whole world has a computer/internet, or something's wrong, let's say that is kinda obvious, the people guides for the ste..stere-stereotype, (I was right ¬¬) that is 1/Lizzie, 3/4 and 2/5 but in fact is 2/cree, 5/maurice, and really, who knows what's going to happen next? but that's the way the people is (and I don't mean anything) but some ones can have the capacity of looking beyond the obvious things... ¿? Ò.Ô Uhhhhhh.... if I'm reading this correctly, so you're saying that there's more WEBPAGES for 2/5 supporters. Thus you just proved that more 2/5 supporters know how to make a webpage or know how to submit their sites to search engines. This doesn't take anything into account and thus is still wrong and incomplete. ~Regan |
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Post by Violette on Sept 2, 2006 3:44:19 GMT
hmmm sorta, but the webpages doen't have anything related with the numbers of fans, I know, but as I said, the peoples get persuaded for the obvious thing, one element has a girlfriend/boyfirend, that element has to stick with his/her acyual couple, but they can break up in any moment! XD nad as I said, it's like an strategy
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Both are loved by me xD Ehehe
*wink wink nudge nudge*
