1/Lizzie <3

[dex]

I would've posted on here sooner, but I got caught up in that Mary-sue parody fic of Parron's. Holy crud that was funny.
1/Lizzie is one of my favourites. It really was the first pairing I liked...*tries to remember but fails*

[eveluvswally]

veljko said:

Lizzie is, without a shadow of a doubt, the most hated character in all of fandom. Why? True she has bad qualities -- can't fault that -- but the level of bile I've seen displayed is quite odd. Anyone care to clue me in on this? Why no love for Lizzie?

I think the biggest reason a lot of people hate Lizzie is she gets in teh way of any ship involving Numbah 1. That along with the fact she has a lot of qualities that, if they were in a male, would be looked at as funny, but in a female, especially one dating a character they like, they don't see it as good.

[GoldenFlither]

regan said:

Lizzie!hating makes me sad.... granted she's not my favorite character. But you can't deny that 1/Lizzie is in fact canon. And no, "weLL i tHinK thaT sO and So iS bEtteR fOr NiGie" does not change that.

Not to be mean, but that wasn't very nice. People support different couples. They don't have to be canon. I mean, come on. Give us a chance to dream.

[62]

Well, I wasn't a fan of Lizzie since well on CAKED TWO she sold Numbuh One out for a taste of frosting, and on LIZZIE she was trying to force him to like her, but she's grown on me a little bit.
Sure she may be a little head-strong and loud and has kind of a tom-boyish Amy-Like-personality (lol sorry, I compare almost everything to Sonic the Hedgehog, sorry I’m obsessed with Sonic along with KND XD)
But anywayz, she’s still a part of the show, and its obvious Numbuh One likes her, and although hard to putt up sometimes she means well and likes Numbuh One back.
I don’t hate the couple, I’m not really a fan, but if Numbuh One likes her then it’s good enough for me over here ^^

[digigirl02]

Well said, besides I like Lizzie's fangirlism.

[GoldenFlither]

I agree with 62, actually. As I always say, love is all aboe trust. As long as there's trust in a relationship, there's no doubt that it won't last a long time. Heck, if its love and trust, it may even last for a lifetime. But this 1/Lizzie relationship lacks it, and I believe that trust is the main source. So, I guess thats why I'm not a big fan.

[Numbuh 0xFF]

@re: The chance to dream

Of course you can dream! Dream all you want. Please do. We all dream, after all. Just don't insist your dreams have to be real, is all.

@re: Trust

I can dig that. Trust in a relationship is crucial. But, remember, love's a tricky thing. There may in fact be 1/Lizzie trust from totally irrational reasons -- check out POOL. Odd, isn't it?

[regan]

veljko said:

Lizzie is, without a shadow of a doubt, the most hated character in all of fandom. Why? True she has bad qualities -- can't fault that -- but the level of bile I've seen displayed is quite odd. Anyone care to clue me in on this? Why no love for Lizzie?

1) She gets in the way of other ships that involve Nigel
2) She's fat
3) She's somewhat controling and whiny... which - while characteristics that ten year olds and other KND characters have - is deemed as "unforgivable"

That's my guess at least. ^^

goldenflither said:

regan said:

Lizzie!hating makes me sad.... granted she's not my favorite character. But you can't deny that 1/Lizzie is in fact canon. And no, "weLL i tHinK thaT sO and So iS bEtteR fOr NiGie" does not change that.

Not to be mean, but that wasn't very nice. People support different couples. They don't have to be canon. I mean, come on. Give us a chance to dream.

Hey, feel free to dream all you want and support whoever. I'm just saying that arguements that state that Nigel doesn't like Lizzie because she's horrible / Lizzie isn't right for Nigel / Lizzie and Nigel don't love each other are ridiculous because the relationship IS canon and thus they do romantically care for each other.

goldenflither said:

I agree with 62, actually. As I always say, love is all aboe trust. As long as there's trust in a relationship, there's no doubt that it won't last a long time. Heck, if its love and trust, it may even last for a lifetime. But this 1/Lizzie relationship lacks it, and I believe that trust is the main source. So, I guess thats why I'm not a big fan.

*Cough* They're ten. Personally, I don't think I know any ten year olds who are able to maintain a mature, emotionally-developed relationship. ^^; But regardless, while trust is an important part, that's not to say that there aren't many other aspects of a relationship that Lizzie does fufill (and others theoretically wouldn't).

~Regan

[digigirl02]

As proven in the show.

[MarEla]

There are two 1/Lizzie thread in the romance section. Both almost the same, and with the debate going on in both thread. This there a way we can combine these two together to make one big battlefield disscusion?

[GoldenFlither]

regan said:

Hey, feel free to dream all you want and support whoever. I'm just saying that arguements that state that Nigel doesn't like Lizzie because she's horrible / Lizzie isn't right for Nigel / Lizzie and Nigel don't love each other are ridiculous because the relationship IS canon and thus they do romantically care for each other.

You really know how to make us sound like aweful people, don't you? We at least back ourselves up, you know.

goldenflither said:

I agree with 62, actually. As I always say, love is all aboe trust. As long as there's trust in a relationship, there's no doubt that it won't last a long time. Heck, if its love and trust, it may even last for a lifetime. But this 1/Lizzie relationship lacks it, and I believe that trust is the main source. So, I guess thats why I'm not a big fan.

*Cough* They're ten. Personally, I don't think I know any ten year olds who are able to maintain a mature, emotionally-developed relationship. ^^; But regardless, while trust is an important part, that's not to say that there aren't many other aspects of a relationship that Lizzie does fufill (and others theoretically wouldn't).

~Regan

Dude, Numbuh 1 saved the world. You can't tell me that an everyday 10-year-old boy does that all the time in real life. They act a lot older, aside from the mispronounced words and defending of the KND and all that, in the personal area, they seem a lot older than normal 10-year-olds. How many 10-year-old kids even have boyfriends/girlfriends?

[Nella (Numbuh 310)]

goldenflither said:

regan said:

Hey, feel free to dream all you want and support whoever. I'm just saying that arguements that state that Nigel doesn't like Lizzie because she's horrible / Lizzie isn't right for Nigel / Lizzie and Nigel don't love each other are ridiculous because the relationship IS canon and thus they do romantically care for each other.

You really know how to make us sound like aweful people, don't you? We at least back ourselves up, you know.

How does that make you sound like an awful person? Regan has a point. If you insist that Lizzie and Nigel's relationship is canonically on the rocks, that's just silly. It's not. They're dating and they're happy. And that's canon. I don't see where that vilifies you. It just states that discrediting canon doesn't work.
And what do you mean by that final sentence? I'm not sure how to take it.

Dude, Numbuh 1 saved the world. You can't tell me that an everyday 10-year-old boy does that all the time in real life. They act a lot older, aside from the mispronounced words and defending of the KND and all that, in the personal area, they seem a lot older than normal 10-year-olds. How many 10-year-old kids even have boyfriends/girlfriends?

How many 10-year-olds have girl/boyfriends? You'd be surprised.
Sure, the kids act more mature - the KNDverse needs them to be. These kids are freedom fighters, they handle weapons, they save the world. But, emotionally, they act like they're still kids.

[eveluvswally]

quirkymarela said:

There are two 1/Lizzie thread in the romance section. Both almost the same, and with the debate going on in both thread. This there a way we can combine these two together to make one big battlefield disscusion?

Well, the first one was about why people like the couple, but other people came to argue, the second one was made just to have 1/Lizzie love cuz the first one got like that....but..somehow people didn't understand the thread name and purpose, and came to repete what they said on the other thread.

[phantomfox]

Sometimes Lizzie is scary, but in the end, it makes the relationship sweeter, because Nigel is still dating her and still cares about her, even if she isn't perfect.

...and of course, the relationship is CANON, so I'm all over it. ;D

[GoldenFlither]

elaviel said:

goldenflither said:

You really know how to make us sound like aweful people, don't you? We at least back ourselves up, you know.

How does that make you sound like an awful person? Regan has a point. If you insist that Lizzie and Nigel's relationship is canonically on the rocks, that's just silly. It's not. They're dating and they're happy. And that's canon. I don't see where that vilifies you. It just states that discrediting canon doesn't work.
And what do you mean by that final sentence? I'm not sure how to take it.

I'm sorry. I was really, really, really angry about an hour ago. I didn't mean half of the things I said. However, I did mean that last sentence. As long as were able to back ourselves up, there's no need to throw rude comments at each other.

Again, I do apologize. You wouldn't hate me in person. I'm a total Christian.

Dude, Numbuh 1 saved the world. You can't tell me that an everyday 10-year-old boy does that all the time in real life. They act a lot older, aside from the mispronounced words and defending of the KND and all that, in the personal area, they seem a lot older than normal 10-year-olds. How many 10-year-old kids even have boyfriends/girlfriends?

How many 10-year-olds have girl/boyfriends? You'd be surprised.
Sure, the kids act more mature - the KNDverse needs them to be. These kids are freedom fighters, they handle weapons, they save the world. But, emotionally, they act like they're still kids.

I know what you mean! These kids start having crushes at such young ages now-a-days. But something about the relationships between each other just seems like something teenagers, even adults, in reality would act like.

They can act like kids, which is where the humor comes in the series. But, you have to admit, there's quite a bit of drama here and there. That's when they act much older.